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I wonder what the author thinks of Sublime Text. Fast everything (search, opening files, switching projects…) is a big part of Sublime’s value proposition, one

by fprog 4y ago

I wonder what the author thinks of Sublime Text. Fast everything (search, opening files, switching projects…) is a big part of Sublime’s value proposition, one that has so far survived the era of VSCode. And AFAIK it is written in C++, and can certainly be used to write C++.

stewartlynch8 4y ago
I've only tried sublime text briefly to be honest. I like its speed, but I need something that can open huge Visual Studio projects. I also wasn't sure about the C++ parsing which requires installing packages. Just to be clear, 10x supports syntax highlighting for many languages, it's only the parser that is C++ specific.
Shorel 4y ago
I wanted to try 10x, it doesn't exist for Linux. Sublime Text on the other hand, I purchased a licence for ST3, I am still using it with ST4, and I am happy with it. I use ST for C++, PHP, Python, LaTeX (it's actually great for LaTeX, with inline equations) and web stuff. Also use it to explore Rust, go, dlang, edit huge SQL files, JSON files, etc. I think at some point I will get a new ST licence. With regard to 10x, I don't use Windows to program, and I will not reboot the computer just to test it, as good as it could be.
bogwog 4y ago
I would definitely choose Sublime over this, only because Sublime isn't limited to/focused on a single language. However, if I were a paying CLion user, this editor might be a more compelling buy if it addresses some pain points, like performance. but then again, Jetbrains is working on their own "polyglot" editor called Fleet, which is aiming to be much faster and more lightweight than their existing dinosaur IDEs.
Thaxll 4y ago
Re-inventing the wheel is very common for IDE / editors, ofc this is already done by Sublime but I think in this crowded space it's all about perception, maybe Sublime missed the train and now you need a new "fresh" IDE to capture the audience.
- gmiller123456 4y ago
  I don't think they "missed the train", just VSCode is free, and there's not enough compelling reason to pay for Sublime now. I was a Sublime user for quite a while, and switched to VSCode purely because it handled multiple cursors better. Ironically, multi-cursor support was my key reason for switching to Sublime from Notepad++. VSCode is slower, but not enough to actually impact my performance coding.
  - Shorel 4y ago
    What VS Code does better with the multiple cursors? I am curious. So far I only see that VSC uses Ctrl+Alt+arrow keys, vs ST using Shift+Alt+arrow keys to create the multiple cursors.
    - gmiller123456 4y ago
      It's been quite a while, so I don't remember the specifics, though I'm pretty sure it had to do with the ability to move the cursors around using things like CTRL+Arrow, end, home, etc. Also believe the ability to highlight several lines and press Shift+Alt+I to add a cursor to each line without having to use the mouse wasn't possible in Sublime. Since it's been a few years, it's totally possible Sublime has those now. But without a pressing reason to switch, I'll be sticking with what I use now.
      - Shorel 4y ago
        > Also believe the ability to highlight several lines and press Shift+Alt+I to add a cursor to each line without having to use the mouse wasn't possible in Sublime. It was always possible, I have used Sublime since version 2. Ctrl+Shift+L. Seems the issue is they use different keyboard shortcuts and that's it.

by fprog 4y ago

stewartlynch8 4y ago

I've only tried sublime text briefly to be honest. I like its speed, but I need something that can open huge Visual Studio projects. I also wasn't sure about the C++ parsing which requires installing packages. Just to be clear, 10x supports syntax highlighting for many languages, it's only the parser that is C++ specific.

Shorel 4y ago

I wanted to try 10x, it doesn't exist for Linux. Sublime Text on the other hand, I purchased a licence for ST3, I am still using it with ST4, and I am happy with it. I use ST for C++, PHP, Python, LaTeX (it's actually great for LaTeX, with inline equations) and web stuff. Also use it to explore Rust, go, dlang, edit huge SQL files, JSON files, etc. I think at some point I will get a new ST licence. With regard to 10x, I don't use Windows to program, and I will not reboot the computer just to test it, as good as it could be.

bogwog 4y ago

I would definitely choose Sublime over this, only because Sublime isn't limited to/focused on a single language. However, if I were a paying CLion user, this editor might be a more compelling buy if it addresses some pain points, like performance. but then again, Jetbrains is working on their own "polyglot" editor called Fleet, which is aiming to be much faster and more lightweight than their existing dinosaur IDEs.

Thaxll 4y ago

Re-inventing the wheel is very common for IDE / editors, ofc this is already done by Sublime but I think in this crowded space it's all about perception, maybe Sublime missed the train and now you need a new "fresh" IDE to capture the audience.

gmiller123456 4y ago
I don't think they "missed the train", just VSCode is free, and there's not enough compelling reason to pay for Sublime now. I was a Sublime user for quite a while, and switched to VSCode purely because it handled multiple cursors better. Ironically, multi-cursor support was my key reason for switching to Sublime from Notepad++. VSCode is slower, but not enough to actually impact my performance coding.
- Shorel 4y ago
  What VS Code does better with the multiple cursors? I am curious. So far I only see that VSC uses Ctrl+Alt+arrow keys, vs ST using Shift+Alt+arrow keys to create the multiple cursors.
  - gmiller123456 4y ago
    It's been quite a while, so I don't remember the specifics, though I'm pretty sure it had to do with the ability to move the cursors around using things like CTRL+Arrow, end, home, etc. Also believe the ability to highlight several lines and press Shift+Alt+I to add a cursor to each line without having to use the mouse wasn't possible in Sublime. Since it's been a few years, it's totally possible Sublime has those now. But without a pressing reason to switch, I'll be sticking with what I use now.
    - Shorel 4y ago
      > Also believe the ability to highlight several lines and press Shift+Alt+I to add a cursor to each line without having to use the mouse wasn't possible in Sublime. It was always possible, I have used Sublime since version 2. Ctrl+Shift+L. Seems the issue is they use different keyboard shortcuts and that's it.