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Consumption happens at centers, supervised by a licensed trip sitter ("facilitator", sure, whatever). The "streets" of Portland aren't affected. You won't be ab
by lvh 4y ago
Consumption happens at centers, supervised by a licensed trip sitter ("facilitator", sure, whatever). The "streets" of Portland aren't affected. You won't be able to (legally) buy shrooms the way you can buy pot.
- javajosh 4y agoTo me, that's actually a really cool part of this. I bet a lot of people who've done shrooms at parties and casually don't really understand it or what it can do for you. But the experience really can be enhanced and useful with some sober guidance, setting, intentions and so on. Very cool experiment. I'm glad Oregon is doing it.
- vidarh 4y agoI'm sure there are plenty (like me) who haven't tried it at all who also don't particularly want to try it in a party setting at all but might be inclined to experience it with some sober guidance. It'll be interesting to see how it works out.
- ramesh31 4y ago[flagged]
- BobbyJo 4y agoShrooms are highly unlikely to be sought after by people living on the streets. They are orders of magnitude easier to manufacture than more common street drugs, yet are rare to find people in possession of. They are often not fun, especially if you are at a point where you are already suffering, not to mention how quickly the brain develops a tolerance (often after a single dose). They are nearly impossible to abuse. People on the streets are after opioids, meth, and alcohol, all of which have presently-legal analogs already.
- notch656c 4y agoNormally I'd say you'd be right, but I was homeless on the Seattle-Norcal circuit area, with Oregon pretty squarely in the heart of that. They're a different breed.
- dang 4y agoCould you please stop posting flamebait and/or unsubstantive comments? You've been doing this repeatedly, unfortunately. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.
- anon291 4y agoOne of the key problems with the progressive mindset is the assumption that laws will be followed and enforce effectively regardless of the policy.
- vidarh 4y agoI read the above as pointing out you won't be able to legally buy it the same way you can legally buy pot in Oregon to consume at home. I don't think anyone has suggested you won't (continue to) be able to buy it illegally.
- lvh 4y agoOK, so the law won't be followed. Are we under the impression there weren't any shrooms available in Portland illicitly?
- anon291 4y agoSure there are. The last thing we need is more demands for substances that inhibit rational thinking.
- spyda 4y agoSo-called conservative drug policy has been an abject failure. It walked us into an opioid addiction crisis that has cost taxpayers billions of dollars. Those laws are neither followed or enforced effectively. I'd rather have liberty than a failing drug policy.
- ajmurmann 4y agoNot sure what exactly is going on, but there is a shroom store operating quite publicly on the east side. Regardless, this will have no impact on "the streets of Portland". The real problem are much harder, "less fun" drugs, namely fentanyl and meth that are destroying people's mental health and lifes all over the US. Also, 50% of homeless in Portland arrived there homeless.
- lvh 4y agoThis looks like it might be a different place (or at least a different location), but here's an OPB/AP article about a place that was operating quite openly, illegally, and got raided[0]. [0]: https://www.opb.org/article/2022/12/09/oregon-store-allegedly-selling-psychedelic-mushrooms-raided/ https://www.opb.org/article/2022/12/09/oregon-store-allegedl...
- notch656c 4y agoSweet, rather than doing it at home exclusively with people you trust, some fucking stranger in a facility can watch you at your vulnerable moments and you get to pray they don't take advantage of it.
- neon_electro 4y agoDo you feel this way about bartenders?
- notch656c 4y agoAt sober to moderately buzzed no, anything more yes.
- pelasaco 4y agoare they serving hallucinogenics? Do you trip on bud light?
- lvh 4y agoNo, but the problem was praying state-licensed practitioners don't take advantage of you in an incapacitated state. You might not be hallucinating, but surely there's an amount of alcohol where you're just as helpless if not more than a shroom dose.
- stuntkite 4y agoThe hallucinogenic (not psychedelic) effects of bud light shouldn’t be minimized. It takes a lot more work to achieve and is pretty miserable, like 30 a night for a year, but for sure booze can make you hallucinate. It’s generally considered to be whatever the opposite of therapeutic would be.
- eastof 4y agoMy personal experience is heightened awareness and even increased physical strength on mushrooms. Alcohol gets me dizzy, confused, and dumb. So comparatively, I'd be more concerned about someone taking advantage of me drunk than tripping.
- pelasaco 4y agoWell, lets remember how we got there with fentanyl: "fentanyl was prescribed by doctors to treat severe pain, especially after surgery and for advanced-stage cancer. However, most recent cases of fentanyl-related overdose are linked to illicitly manufactured fentanyl, which is distributed through illegal drug markets for its heroin-like effect." What is harder to be illicitly manufactured? fentanyl or "shrooms"
- kodah 4y agoMushrooms are already decriminalized in Portland. I've not seen any public incidents of folks on Mushrooms. Most people just stay home.