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It's not just installing a chat server though. It's setting up the server in general, securing the chat server, make the chat server work with your companies ch
by Shinmon 4y ago
It's not just installing a chat server though. It's setting up the server in general, securing the chat server, make the chat server work with your companies choice of auth, updating the chat server, updating the underlying server, .... How about file transfer in chat? Pictures? Gifs? ... That's what you gotta do with every solution you want so self-host. It takes time, costs money, and is likely still leading to a worse user experience.
Are there companies who self-host their chat and project management? Pretty sure there are. In the end, that's why slack is has a free option that works well for small teams that do not need to keep old messages.
- jesuscript 4y agoI certainly don’t want to go back and forth, but I’m pretty sure xmpp and matrix support sso/files/images/emojis. Might take a day of setup, but one day of setup vs per year/per user subscription for something that’s been around (for free) for ages fails my this-is-bottled-water-we-are-paying for test.
- pxcse 4y agoIt's not that the things you say can't be done. Of course they can. But simply buying a product takes a lot of effort away. I've used XMPP messengers and it worked. But I'm a tech savy person. If you have colleagues who aren't then you need someone to support them in installing the client, setting up everything, etc. With solutions like Slack there is a lot less friction. People know how to use it in a browser. People know how to install the client. You pay for the convenience of the product, no necessarily for the features themselves.