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> still 100% depends on youtube’s algorithm. That's the scary part. He spends years building a channel and it can be wiped out in a day. He needs to diversify.

by _tom_ 4y ago

> still 100% depends on youtube’s algorithm. That's the scary part. He spends years building a channel and it can be wiped out in a day. He needs to diversify. Sponsorships/ads won't help, they'd die with the channel. I'm not in this space, but maybe patreon? Does onlyfans do non-porn? Vimeo? How does one minimize risk to this $150k/year revenue stream?

jonp888 4y ago
You can sell stuff directly to your fans: - branded merchandise - endorse or develop your own products - write a book - other platforms(TikTok, Instagram etc.) Or use your experience and brand value to do things your YouTube fans might not even notice: - public speaking - consulting/video production for brands - presenting work for commercial YouTube channels
- fsflover 4y ago
  There is also PeerTube.
  - rjmunro 4y ago
    How do you monetise that?
    - fsflover 4y ago
      With in-video advertisements? Should work al least if you already have enough followers.
Cthulhu_ 4y ago
Patreon works, but only as a monetization platform; while it's a channel that can offer early access to e.g. new videos, in practice the vast majority of views will still be on youtube and unless it's something critical, patrons will wait until it's on youtube anyway (citation needed). Onlyfans doesn't do porn, nu-uh, where did you even get that idea? It doesn't market specifically to adult content, is what I mean, lol. Its current home page does not appeal at all though; it currently shows me a dull kitchen / food channel, some real estate agent, and some model eating caviar. Anyway, patreon, merchandise and in-video sponsorships are common ways to diversify income. Some big players have expanded to clothing brands or, weirdly enough, doing wrestling / boxing matches. I think the current biggest alternative to Youtube is Twitch, but that's mainly aimed at gaming channels and live broadcasting.
- smolder 4y ago
  > Some big players have expanded to clothing brands or, weirdly enough, doing wrestling / boxing matches. Don't leave out cryptocurrency scams.
- makeitdouble 4y ago
  I’m following a few creators on patreon who have a two/three steps approach. The video will be on youtube from the start, but as a private video. From there a part of their patreons might get very early access (e.g. CGP Grey has a tier for spell checking and gross errors spotting), and then all patreons get access to the final video. But still private (and/or exposed to channel paying members) After a short time (a day at most) the video gets public and is fully dispatched to everyone on Youtube.
makeitdouble 4y ago
I get the feeling that the day it gets wiped away he'll move to another job (he's been a software engineer for a while apparently) and not look back. The way it's managed currently is too laid back to be accidental, there's so many things that could have been done to increase revenue and secure side channels. I can only assume he has no interest in making it more complicated for the sake of safety.

by _tom_ 4y ago

jonp888 4y ago

You can sell stuff directly to your fans: - branded merchandise - endorse or develop your own products - write a book - other platforms(TikTok, Instagram etc.) Or use your experience and brand value to do things your YouTube fans might not even notice: - public speaking - consulting/video production for brands - presenting work for commercial YouTube channels

fsflover 4y ago
There is also PeerTube.
- rjmunro 4y ago
  How do you monetise that?
  - fsflover 4y ago
    With in-video advertisements? Should work al least if you already have enough followers.

Cthulhu_ 4y ago

Patreon works, but only as a monetization platform; while it's a channel that can offer early access to e.g. new videos, in practice the vast majority of views will still be on youtube and unless it's something critical, patrons will wait until it's on youtube anyway (citation needed). Onlyfans doesn't do porn, nu-uh, where did you even get that idea? It doesn't market specifically to adult content, is what I mean, lol. Its current home page does not appeal at all though; it currently shows me a dull kitchen / food channel, some real estate agent, and some model eating caviar. Anyway, patreon, merchandise and in-video sponsorships are common ways to diversify income. Some big players have expanded to clothing brands or, weirdly enough, doing wrestling / boxing matches. I think the current biggest alternative to Youtube is Twitch, but that's mainly aimed at gaming channels and live broadcasting.

smolder 4y ago
> Some big players have expanded to clothing brands or, weirdly enough, doing wrestling / boxing matches. Don't leave out cryptocurrency scams.
makeitdouble 4y ago
I’m following a few creators on patreon who have a two/three steps approach. The video will be on youtube from the start, but as a private video. From there a part of their patreons might get very early access (e.g. CGP Grey has a tier for spell checking and gross errors spotting), and then all patreons get access to the final video. But still private (and/or exposed to channel paying members) After a short time (a day at most) the video gets public and is fully dispatched to everyone on Youtube.

makeitdouble 4y ago

I get the feeling that the day it gets wiped away he'll move to another job (he's been a software engineer for a while apparently) and not look back. The way it's managed currently is too laid back to be accidental, there's so many things that could have been done to increase revenue and secure side channels. I can only assume he has no interest in making it more complicated for the sake of safety.