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It would be pretty cool to have Steve Jobs and Sergey Brin fighting over you as an employee, wonder who it was.
by bluehorseray 4y ago
It would be pretty cool to have Steve Jobs and Sergey Brin fighting over you as an employee, wonder who it was.
- wahnfrieden 4y ago[flagged]
- kortilla 4y agoWhooooosh. The whole point is that you’re even worth the attention of attempted wage suppression by two high level execs. It has nothing to do with fawning over execs.
- eyelidlessness 4y agoIt’s an honor to be suppressed by C-levels in two giant corporations! It isn’t fawning over the people who systematically deny me seeking value for my talent, I’m privileged to have both of them fuck me simultaneously!
- kortilla 4y agoYou’re still missing the forest for the trees. It’s unrealistic for execs in companies that size to even take a cursory review of why each individual person left the company (and they would be incompetently wasting their time if they did). Anything that involves the attention enough to warrant actual emails makes that employee extraordinary. This is the same whether the outcome is negative or positive.
- eyelidlessness 4y agoThe forest was encapsulated in “it’s an honor”, my fellow serf.
- ramraj07 4y agoI’m sure that redacted employee made bank but I doubt they truly got compensated for the value they created for these obscene companies , in part due to these bs negotiations.
- deleted 4y ago[deleted]
- canadianfella 4y ago[dead]
- jjulius 4y agoI mean, it can be both cool that I'm talented enough to have those two people fight over me, and also suck that my wages might get impacted. Ain't nuance neat? :)
- eyelidlessness 4y agoHere’s some nuance: anyone so talented they warrant legal action over a fight to employ them already knows they’re very talented. Being their stakes in a war over strategic business goals isn’t more affirming, it’s almost certainly less. It’s (almost invariably) not cool to be someone else’s meat. Even if you know you’re very highly valued meat, and even if they affirm that your value as meat is very high indeed.
- shadowgovt 4y agoI'm sure they can comfort themselves on the quarter to half a million annual they were being paid instead of the half a million to three quarters of a million a zero collusion market would have offered them. ;)
- eyelidlessness 4y ago“Got table scraps; good table scraps, could’ve been better mind you, not especially great; enriched a few.” There, I think I know what to put in my will as how I will wish to be remembered.
- jjulius 4y ago>“Got table scraps; good table scraps, could’ve been better mind you, not especially great; enriched a few.” There, I think I know what to put in my will as how I will wish to be remembered. I realize we are on a forum/platform that is home to a disproportionately high number of wealthier individuals, but are you actually suggesting that $250 million annually is "table scraps"?
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- gjsman-1000 4y agoNo kidding. That employee's resume could be reduced to one sentence: "Sergey Brin and Steve Jobs got into a yelling match over me." Obviously that's stretching the truth a bit but that would get a lot of attention pretty quickly. Maybe enough to skip the leetcode challenges.
- fragmede 4y ago[flagged]
- cpfohl 4y agoEw. Let’s not sexualize kids. Not cool.
- unnouinceput 4y ago[flagged]
- ignoramous 4y ago"Ben Goodger personally vouched for me" makes for a nice cover letter.
- wyclif 4y agoThe line from Sergey about Eric Schmidt made me smile. It's his "OK boomer" moment.
- dixie_land 4y ago> "He seemed to care whether the world has an alternative to IE." Whoever he is, he's a stand up guy in my book
- SillyUsername 4y agoMost of the web developer world cared about an alternative, just ask any older FE developer after screaming iiiieeeee (6) when their pages failed to render to published standards in it.
- gghffguhvc 4y agoProbably Dave Hyatt.
- _zzaw 4y agoHyatt never worked for Google—he's still at Apple as far as I know. Might be that Google ultimately retracted their offer, but knowing Steve, Hyatt would probably not have remained at Apple no matter what happened. I don't have any inside info here, but I'd be willing to bet Darin Adler was one of those other REDACTEDs. He was an early Safari guy, as well as tech lead for Mac OS 7 and worked at General Magic, so Google would probably have been pretty happy to get their hands on him.
- gghffguhvc 4y agoI still think the main one was Dave Hyatt. Ben Goodger (referenced in those emails) worked on V0.6 of Firefox that Dave started. Ben was founding team at chrome just before these emails (see his LinkedIn for dates). Dave was instrumental on WebKit for Safiri. Chrome picked WebKit too. Dave was also that good and was well known to Steve. I also think parakey was the startup referenced as his other option (Blake Ross and Joe Hewitt)
- _zzaw 4y agoHyatt was honestly the first name that came to my mind, and in fact I had to look him up to be certain that he didn't move to Google. I guess I assumed that if it was Hyatt, he'd no longer be at Apple, since it sounded like the person in question wanted to leave, but who knows—maybe Apple got him to stay? Steve Jobs was obsessed with loyalty, so I figured that anyone applying for a job at Google would be dead to Apple as long as Jobs was there. Hyatt was one of these guys who even Jobs would probably have hesitated to blacklist, though, so maybe it really is him they're referring to here, and he ultimately remained with Apple.
- gghffguhvc 4y agoSteve probably needed this team for iPhone Safari. That could explain why he was so pissed. Perhaps just showing them the iOS plans and a some extra stock was enough. Perhaps Google pulled the offer. Perhaps both.