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Oh FFS. Vaccination greatly reduces the severity of illness, which is to say it greatly reduces how many cells get infected and how much the virus is replicated

Oh FFS. Vaccination greatly reduces the severity of illness, which is to say it greatly reduces how many cells get infected and how much the virus is replicated in the body. This necessarily reduces the opportunity for a mutation to occur. So tired of idiotic vaccination disinformation. It is always so goddamned moronic.

VagueMag 4y ago
Your assumption that lesser severity of illness implies "greatly" reduced viral load is wrong (one might even say, moronic?): > During the Omicron period (Fig. 1b), a recent 3rd-dose increases Ct among vaccinees, and is similar to infection-derived protection. Otherwise, the differences in Ct for the unvaccinated (adjusted Ct 25.9), 2-dose (adjusted Ct 25.7) and late 3-dose groups (adjusted Ct 25.8) are negligible (Fig. 1b). In general, the effect of immune status for Omicron is less pronounced than for Delta even upon recent receipt of the 3rd vaccine dose or a previous infection, as manifested by reduced Ct-values gaps between these groups and the unvaccinated. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-33096-0 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-33096-0 "Recent" here meant having had a booster within the past 70 days. Call me crazy, but I don't think boostering the entire population against SARS-CoV-2 every 70 days is a realistic strategy to prevent new variants, or likely to lead to good health outcomes. These numbers for Omicron were also a significant narrowing of the gap from Delta; it will be interesting to see what happens to it with the new variant referenced in the OP!
- monkeybutler 4y ago
  Your assumptions about others are not constructive. Two variants having different symptoms per viral load says nothing about the topic. Claiming it is possible to prevent all mutations with an extreme regiment also makes the wrong point for you. Obviously you understand how the vaccination is reducing mutation then.

VagueMag 4y ago

Your assumption that lesser severity of illness implies "greatly" reduced viral load is wrong (one might even say, moronic?): > During the Omicron period (Fig. 1b), a recent 3rd-dose increases Ct among vaccinees, and is similar to infection-derived protection. Otherwise, the differences in Ct for the unvaccinated (adjusted Ct 25.9), 2-dose (adjusted Ct 25.7) and late 3-dose groups (adjusted Ct 25.8) are negligible (Fig. 1b). In general, the effect of immune status for Omicron is less pronounced than for Delta even upon recent receipt of the 3rd vaccine dose or a previous infection, as manifested by reduced Ct-values gaps between these groups and the unvaccinated. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-33096-0 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-33096-0 "Recent" here meant having had a booster within the past 70 days. Call me crazy, but I don't think boostering the entire population against SARS-CoV-2 every 70 days is a realistic strategy to prevent new variants, or likely to lead to good health outcomes. These numbers for Omicron were also a significant narrowing of the gap from Delta; it will be interesting to see what happens to it with the new variant referenced in the OP!

monkeybutler 4y ago
Your assumptions about others are not constructive. Two variants having different symptoms per viral load says nothing about the topic. Claiming it is possible to prevent all mutations with an extreme regiment also makes the wrong point for you. Obviously you understand how the vaccination is reducing mutation then.