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Yeah exactly, two examples that immediately come to mind during my lifetime are My Chemical Romance - Welcome to the Black Parade (the song more than the album)

by mjr00 4y ago

Yeah exactly, two examples that immediately come to mind during my lifetime are My Chemical Romance - Welcome to the Black Parade (the song more than the album) and Green Day - American Idiot. At the time they were released, many people saw them as emo-pop dreck, a complete departure from "real" punk-rock music of the 80s and 90s into something far too watered down and palatable for the masses. Now if you look at YouTube comment sections for those songs, it's full of people wistfully remembering the good ol' days when people played real music with real instruments. Hell, even Limp Bizkit, Limp fucking Bizkit, has been widely retconned into being a charmingly nostalgic relic of music at the turn of the millennium instead of just, you know... bad. A study in 2022 saying that most people say music from before 2010 was better is meaningless, because a study in 2032 will show that music from before 2020 was better.

slater- 4y ago
careful looking for truth in youtube comments. how many of those people are bots? or just idiots? those albums you mentioned ARE dreck ;)
- jakelazaroff 4y ago
  Grandpa?? When did you sign up for HN?
  - slater- 4y ago
    In my day... Green Day was on the same label as Operation Ivy!
filoleg 4y ago
And coming from a completely different genre, 808's and Heartbreak by Kanye from 2008. Hated on release by everyone (both critics and the audience), it wasn't "rap enough", people weren't thrilled by electronic tons and sadboy singing. Less than half the decade later, the critical and public opinion took a full 180, with plenty of new major artists (like Brockhampton) claiming they owe their entire music career to that album. You could easily hear the influence of that album pretty much all over other artists' works. Disclaimer: yes, I am aware that over the past few years Kanye had become a person doing things that are hard to defend in any way, but that's not something I am trying to do here at all. A lot of those actions are pretty much indefensible. However, his personal behavior doesn't change the impact of his music from 2008 on the industry and music as a whole.

by mjr00 4y ago

slater- 4y ago

careful looking for truth in youtube comments. how many of those people are bots? or just idiots? those albums you mentioned ARE dreck ;)

jakelazaroff 4y ago
Grandpa?? When did you sign up for HN?
- slater- 4y ago
  In my day... Green Day was on the same label as Operation Ivy!

filoleg 4y ago

And coming from a completely different genre, 808's and Heartbreak by Kanye from 2008. Hated on release by everyone (both critics and the audience), it wasn't "rap enough", people weren't thrilled by electronic tons and sadboy singing. Less than half the decade later, the critical and public opinion took a full 180, with plenty of new major artists (like Brockhampton) claiming they owe their entire music career to that album. You could easily hear the influence of that album pretty much all over other artists' works. Disclaimer: yes, I am aware that over the past few years Kanye had become a person doing things that are hard to defend in any way, but that's not something I am trying to do here at all. A lot of those actions are pretty much indefensible. However, his personal behavior doesn't change the impact of his music from 2008 on the industry and music as a whole.