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>the emails are only sent when the customer selects to receive an email, and we include a visible unsubscribe link. Just for what it's worth, sometimes when a

>the emails are only sent when the customer selects to receive an email, and we include a visible unsubscribe link. Just for what it's worth, sometimes when a company's marketing is really obnoxious I'll mark it as spam just to fuck with them. If there are enough people doing that, one could imagine that Google's internal filters would begin seeing the whole domain, or some random boilerplate string in the emails as an indicator of spam. Have you started manually flagging messages as "not spam" on mass?

oscgam1 4y ago
Thanks for the reply. I Agree that marketing email are super obnoxious. In the very few instances that we send (e.g. black Friday), we include an unsubscribe link :) Yes, we are informing our customers to flag us as not spam. However, our domain reputation is 100% (google's postmaster) according to Google's support, this doesn't seem to be the case. We will continue informing our customers and helping them set filters so they can receive our emails (eg. forgot password and other important emails). But everything on Google's side is showing as OK and we are still left without an answer.
- esperent 4y ago
  Do you send unsolicited mail that customers didn't specifically sign up for? I get so much of this, I sign up for a service to check it out, decide it's not actually a good fit for me but in the process of signing up the company added my email to loads of mailing lists like product updates, advertising, policy changes, etc. etc. The company doesn't see this as spam. However, it is spam and whenever I receive any of this mail, whether there's a (legally required) unsubscribe link or not, I always mark it as spam. Don't send email to people unless they specifically ask you to send it. Mailing lists must be opt-in, not opt-out. Otherwise they are spam. If this is why your mails are being flagged as spam then I agree with Google here. If it's another reason then you have my sympathy.
  - oscgam1 4y ago
    >Do you send unsolicited mail that customers didn't specifically sign up for? No I agree mails should be opt in (we do it that way). We send some transactional emails such as forget password, purchase receipts, and welcome email. We already had a good domain reputation, that's why the situation is so difficult to fix.
    - jfoster 4y ago
      Do users have to verify their email address to get onto your lists? I get mail from lots of real businesses, but I never engaged with them, so they're marked as spam.
farseer 4y ago
I do this too, especially those who tricked me into signing me up using a dark pattern
sam0x17 4y ago
> Just for what it's worth, sometimes when a company's marketing is really obnoxious I'll mark it as spam just to fuck with them. I do this for _all_ marketing emails. Report + unsubscribe every single one, unless it's a mailing list I signed up for which I would never do willingly. I don't know why startups think they can send unsolicited emails or force people into a mailing list and get away with it in 2023.

oscgam1 4y ago

Thanks for the reply. I Agree that marketing email are super obnoxious. In the very few instances that we send (e.g. black Friday), we include an unsubscribe link :) Yes, we are informing our customers to flag us as not spam. However, our domain reputation is 100% (google's postmaster) according to Google's support, this doesn't seem to be the case. We will continue informing our customers and helping them set filters so they can receive our emails (eg. forgot password and other important emails). But everything on Google's side is showing as OK and we are still left without an answer.

esperent 4y ago
Do you send unsolicited mail that customers didn't specifically sign up for? I get so much of this, I sign up for a service to check it out, decide it's not actually a good fit for me but in the process of signing up the company added my email to loads of mailing lists like product updates, advertising, policy changes, etc. etc. The company doesn't see this as spam. However, it is spam and whenever I receive any of this mail, whether there's a (legally required) unsubscribe link or not, I always mark it as spam. Don't send email to people unless they specifically ask you to send it. Mailing lists must be opt-in, not opt-out. Otherwise they are spam. If this is why your mails are being flagged as spam then I agree with Google here. If it's another reason then you have my sympathy.
- oscgam1 4y ago
  >Do you send unsolicited mail that customers didn't specifically sign up for? No I agree mails should be opt in (we do it that way). We send some transactional emails such as forget password, purchase receipts, and welcome email. We already had a good domain reputation, that's why the situation is so difficult to fix.
  - jfoster 4y ago
    Do users have to verify their email address to get onto your lists? I get mail from lots of real businesses, but I never engaged with them, so they're marked as spam.

farseer 4y ago

I do this too, especially those who tricked me into signing me up using a dark pattern

sam0x17 4y ago

> Just for what it's worth, sometimes when a company's marketing is really obnoxious I'll mark it as spam just to fuck with them. I do this for _all_ marketing emails. Report + unsubscribe every single one, unless it's a mailing list I signed up for which I would never do willingly. I don't know why startups think they can send unsolicited emails or force people into a mailing list and get away with it in 2023.