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We should be investing literally all of our money into artificial wombs so that we can churn out humans like a factory. The technology is extremely close, and w

We should be investing literally all of our money into artificial wombs so that we can churn out humans like a factory. The technology is extremely close, and we could likely manufacture more lives than we could ever save with any kind of safety measures, even if we sunk all of our GDP into keeping everyone living alive.

urfullofsht 4y ago
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jckahn 4y ago
This is the description of a dystopia.
- atq2119 4y ago
  Of Brave New World, to be precise. I do sometimes wonder though if people who actually lived in such a world would truly perceive it as a dystopia, or if that's just our status quo bias.
dinkumthinkum 4y ago
Why should we do something so awful? How do you come to the conclusion that that is something we should do?
novok 4y ago
Lol the hard part is not getting pregnant and birthing children comparatively, it's the next 20+ years of raising and financially supporting them.
- Analogbullfrog 4y ago
  I’m a woman, and most of the women my age (30s) view pregnancy as the source of a lot of body horror. I know I’d be a lot more interested in having a child if I knew for a fact that after giving birth I would have no chronic conditions. A lot can and does go wrong, even if it doesn’t result in death, and this is more and more common as average child-birthing age goes up.
fxtentacle 4y ago
Probably, allowing polygamist marriage would have a similar effect. https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/why-is-elon-musk-having-so-many-kids https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/why-is-elon-mu...
thombat 4y ago
It's not the nine months of gestation that's the barrier, it's the subsequent 25 years of child rearing. And as a society we value individuals and not just quantities: if I'm accused of infanticide offering to have another child will not balance the criminal books.
- throway98752343 4y ago
  What happens when AI is a more effective parent/teacher than humans? It's never away or preoccupied with work, never loses its temper or fights with the other parent, never too tired to play or engage with questions, the list goes on. I'm not even suggesting heated robotic caregivers. Humans could still be employed to carry out its instructions in the real world, from hugs to diapers. As dystopian as it sounds to us today, it's possible that such a system could consistently raise more well-adjusted adults while also being cheaper and freeing most adults from the burdens (as well as most joys) of parenthood. In the future, AI may be so much better than humans that raising a child by hand is borderline illegal, except for a few religiously exempt groups.
  - playing_colours 4y ago
    There is a good short story “Progeny” by Philip Dick about AI raising human children ;)
    - akuchling 4y ago
      Also the novel "A Closed and Common Orbit" by Becky Chambers.

urfullofsht 4y ago

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jckahn 4y ago

This is the description of a dystopia.

atq2119 4y ago
Of Brave New World, to be precise. I do sometimes wonder though if people who actually lived in such a world would truly perceive it as a dystopia, or if that's just our status quo bias.

dinkumthinkum 4y ago

Why should we do something so awful? How do you come to the conclusion that that is something we should do?

novok 4y ago

Lol the hard part is not getting pregnant and birthing children comparatively, it's the next 20+ years of raising and financially supporting them.

Analogbullfrog 4y ago
I’m a woman, and most of the women my age (30s) view pregnancy as the source of a lot of body horror. I know I’d be a lot more interested in having a child if I knew for a fact that after giving birth I would have no chronic conditions. A lot can and does go wrong, even if it doesn’t result in death, and this is more and more common as average child-birthing age goes up.

fxtentacle 4y ago

Probably, allowing polygamist marriage would have a similar effect. https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/why-is-elon-musk-having-so-many-kids https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/why-is-elon-mu...

thombat 4y ago

It's not the nine months of gestation that's the barrier, it's the subsequent 25 years of child rearing. And as a society we value individuals and not just quantities: if I'm accused of infanticide offering to have another child will not balance the criminal books.

throway98752343 4y ago
What happens when AI is a more effective parent/teacher than humans? It's never away or preoccupied with work, never loses its temper or fights with the other parent, never too tired to play or engage with questions, the list goes on. I'm not even suggesting heated robotic caregivers. Humans could still be employed to carry out its instructions in the real world, from hugs to diapers. As dystopian as it sounds to us today, it's possible that such a system could consistently raise more well-adjusted adults while also being cheaper and freeing most adults from the burdens (as well as most joys) of parenthood. In the future, AI may be so much better than humans that raising a child by hand is borderline illegal, except for a few religiously exempt groups.
- playing_colours 4y ago
  There is a good short story “Progeny” by Philip Dick about AI raising human children ;)
  - akuchling 4y ago
    Also the novel "A Closed and Common Orbit" by Becky Chambers.