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FWIW, a lot of other startups have gone belly up, and taken their infrastructure offline, and that is worse IMO. E.g. I purchased my light switches from Lutron
by deadmutex 4y ago
FWIW, a lot of other startups have gone belly up, and taken their infrastructure offline, and that is worse IMO. E.g. I purchased my light switches from Lutron just because I knew they were going to be around (I have seen a few startups go offline). Before you say, "Oh, if they made it all local then stuff will still work". Yes, that's true to some extent, but then it is still possible that there could be security issues that need to be patched down the line. And one can say "Then you should quarantine the hub and have it connect to HA instance only"... but most people are not going to be able to do that, or may be too much work to maintain over time.
Hopefully with Matter, we'll see more products that can work securely + locally. But IMHO, the tech just wasn't there before (at a price point that was cheap).
- asveikau 4y agoZwave and ZigBee are also somewhat promising in those terms, and exist today. I too have lutron lights, but most of my other stuff is zwave.
- deadmutex 4y agoSadly, ZigBee is a failure in practice. If you buy a Zigbee hub from one vendor, it is unlikely it will reliably work with Zigbee products from another vendor. Zwave doesn't have this issue, but it lacks market adoption. Likely due to cost, but I am not sure.
- asveikau 4y agoI've found zwave to be more flakey than lutron caseta. The "700 series" controller needed to have a lot of firmware patches in the time I've owned one. Even after that, I see a lot of dropped packets.
- shellfishgene 4y agoYou would buy a hub/stick that works with ZigBee2mqtt and get to use a huge range of devices from all vendors.