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> Stability AI is happy to follow copyright laws for their music model, because they know that music labels will hold them accountable. So this seems like a goo

> Stability AI is happy to follow copyright laws for their music model, because they know that music labels will hold them accountable. So this seems like a good time to point out to larger companies like @WaltDisneyCo that their copyrighted material is being stolen and used too I mean this is a pretty good point. If they're so sure this is legal, then train on copyrighted audio+video media as they already do with copyrighted visual media.

zarzavat 4y ago
Avoiding doing something because you don't want to get sued and subjected to a lengthy court battle is completely rational and it doesn't mean that doing that thing is illegal. For example, for decades many TV shows came up with their own lyrics for Happy Birthday song, even though it was well known that the song wasn't copyrighted, because nobody wanted to get sued and fight that battle. Easier to just change a few words in the script.
- int_19h 4y ago
  It's not just legal issues that'll lead to self-regulation. It's also stuff like this: https://imgur.com/a/vAqCUP7 https://imgur.com/a/vAqCUP7
devalidating 4y ago
Simply put, there is less information in music. Copyright infringement cases have been won on as little as a handful of notes. So the likelihood of a copyrightable element from the underlying showing up in the model's output is that much higher. A single melody represents a similar portion of all possible melodies as does a color all possible colors and certainly less than the fraction represented by a single color palette. Yet you cannot copyright a color palette but you can a melody. Copyright law regarding audio media is entire different beast than visual media; the case law and fair use technicalities do not always line up as simply as "if its legal on visual media it must also be legal on audio."

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> Stability AI is happy to follow copyright laws for their music model, because they know that music labels will hold them accountable. So this seems like a goo

by ilikehurdles 4y ago

zarzavat 4y ago
Avoiding doing something because you don't want to get sued and subjected to a lengthy court battle is completely rational and it doesn't mean that doing that thing is illegal. For example, for decades many TV shows came up with their own lyrics for Happy Birthday song, even though it was well known that the song wasn't copyrighted, because nobody wanted to get sued and fight that battle. Easier to just change a few words in the script.
- int_19h 4y ago
  It's not just legal issues that'll lead to self-regulation. It's also stuff like this: https://imgur.com/a/vAqCUP7 https://imgur.com/a/vAqCUP7
devalidating 4y ago
Simply put, there is less information in music. Copyright infringement cases have been won on as little as a handful of notes. So the likelihood of a copyrightable element from the underlying showing up in the model's output is that much higher. A single melody represents a similar portion of all possible melodies as does a color all possible colors and certainly less than the fraction represented by a single color palette. Yet you cannot copyright a color palette but you can a melody. Copyright law regarding audio media is entire different beast than visual media; the case law and fair use technicalities do not always line up as simply as "if its legal on visual media it must also be legal on audio."