What's important to realise is that the elements in MVC are roles not entities. So for example Views in Cocoa actually fulfil both the View and (largely) the C

What's important to realise is that the elements in MVC are roles not entities. So for example Views in Cocoa actually fulfil both the View and (largely) the Controller role. Which is why ViewControllers confused me greatly when they came out. Like they confuse most of the Apple-ecosystem code out there these days. While I do understand how they got there, that doesn't make it better...