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He must not look at the UI, because the HomeAssistant interface begs you to update it _constantly,_ it's actually one of my biggest gripes with HA

Nextgrid 4y ago
Yes, in this case nobody looks at the UI - Hass acts as a glorified PLC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programmable_logic_controller https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programmable_logic_controller). I look at it every few months out of curiosity when I have the opportunity to visit but given that it works well and fits their needs I resist the urge of updating the system. If there was a need for a UI I'd probably enable the HomeKit Bridge extension and let them control it via HomeKit (with only specific entities whitelisted) so that 1) they don't have to suffer through the eyesore that is Material Design and 2) don't get confused by a lot of the internal, read-only entities.
simondotau 4y ago
If you're looking at the Home Assistant admin interface all the time, you're doing it wrong IMHO. The key reason to do home automation is if it's actually automated and not just replacing a bunch of physical switches with web page switches. For the things which cannot be automated, bridge them over to HomeKit (or Google's thing) so they can be natively controlled by your phone and/or voice assistant.
- dividedbyzero 4y ago
  A lot of things could be automated in my home if HASS knew that I'm not working tomorrow, that one of us or both of us are in bed, etc., but no idea how to best tell HASS about these things and how to model all the different cases without going crazy.
  - Bedon292 4y ago
    You can integrate it with a calendar and have automations based on the events. So you can have a work calendar that it checks before doing specific automations. People have also built a variety of presence sensors for beds. With pressure sensors and such. Or if you have a Sleep Number bed, it also has presence detection. You could also do things like detecting phone is in the room and plugged in as a rough equivalent for presence of the person.

Nextgrid 4y ago

Yes, in this case nobody looks at the UI - Hass acts as a glorified PLC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programmable_logic_controller https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programmable_logic_controller). I look at it every few months out of curiosity when I have the opportunity to visit but given that it works well and fits their needs I resist the urge of updating the system. If there was a need for a UI I'd probably enable the HomeKit Bridge extension and let them control it via HomeKit (with only specific entities whitelisted) so that 1) they don't have to suffer through the eyesore that is Material Design and 2) don't get confused by a lot of the internal, read-only entities.

simondotau 4y ago

If you're looking at the Home Assistant admin interface all the time, you're doing it wrong IMHO. The key reason to do home automation is if it's actually automated and not just replacing a bunch of physical switches with web page switches. For the things which cannot be automated, bridge them over to HomeKit (or Google's thing) so they can be natively controlled by your phone and/or voice assistant.

dividedbyzero 4y ago
A lot of things could be automated in my home if HASS knew that I'm not working tomorrow, that one of us or both of us are in bed, etc., but no idea how to best tell HASS about these things and how to model all the different cases without going crazy.
- Bedon292 4y ago
  You can integrate it with a calendar and have automations based on the events. So you can have a work calendar that it checks before doing specific automations. People have also built a variety of presence sensors for beds. With pressure sensors and such. Or if you have a Sleep Number bed, it also has presence detection. You could also do things like detecting phone is in the room and plugged in as a rough equivalent for presence of the person.