Yeah, well, I can sympathize with the sentiment, but here's the problem: > I want less code, not more If been coding web apps since the mid-90's, and I've pre

Yeah, well, I can sympathize with the sentiment, but here's the problem: > I want less code, not more If been coding web apps since the mid-90's, and I've pretty much had it with either re-inventing the wheel or scouring the internet for bits and pieces of libraries. Big fat frameworks allow me to focus on the code I need to do something new. I have no time to fuck about trying to compensate for all the bits and pieces those lightweight frameworks conveniently left out in order to be lightweight. The end result is inevitably just more code to maintain instead of less. I get my punk rock kicks from writing shell scripts and the odd quick & dirty hacks, not complex web applications.