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> What the heck @FBI @ic3 why can't I reach anyone??? Uh, because it’s New Year’s Day? Don’t get injured or become a crime victim on a holiday, if possible.

Sebb767 4y ago
Slightly off-topic, but who is this @ic3 and why does he tag them in the same way as the FBI? Here's the account, for reference: https://twitter.com/ic3 https://twitter.com/ic3 . Doesn't look like an official to me.
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- kube-system 4y ago
  Clearly he meant https://www.ic3.gov/ https://www.ic3.gov/ but tagged a wrong account.
  - logifail 4y ago
    > Clearly he meant https://www.ic3.gov/ https://www.ic3.gov/ but tagged a wrong account I use Twitter solely for moaning at service providers who respond [far!] faster on Twitter than they do by phone or email, but .. umm ... doesn't this [common] mistake demonstrate how broken this approach is?
kristianc 4y ago
Every crypto hack is followed by a swift call for a centralised authority to intervene.
- nemo44x 4y ago
  Why is that inconsistent? There’s a lot of people that believe governments only legit purpose is to protect people and their property.
  - KptMarchewa 4y ago
    Then don't make systems aimed only at removing government authority around many. Governance for me, but not for thee
  - CodexArcana 4y ago
    In order for governments to do that the systems have to have a way for an authority to intervene and reverse the transaction... Which is expressly impossible to do without creating a fork of the chian... Which is pretty contrary to the ethos of the white papers for Bitcoin.
    - nemo44x 4y ago
      To recoup the loss possibly, but that’s not necessarily governments job. The governments job would be to investigate the theft in an attempt to charge a suspect(s) with a crime against another person. If the property is replaceable by the charged parties then that could be used by the government as a consideration in plea bargaining or sentencing. But if it’s gone then hopefully the plaintiff purchased insurance on it.
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mrtksn 4y ago
I'm confused why he even is interested in reaching these governmental organisations. Isn't it the idea of "code is the law" a pillar of the crypto movement? I don't claim that the person in question did this but as a thought experiment IMHO stealing Bitcoin is oxymoron because the transactions are happening in the realm of zero trust computational environment. The whole premise is that this is a trust-less system which means that we shouldn't even attempt to trust in anything about the wallet movements. Maybe it was a handshake deal that went sour afterwards?
paulpauper 4y ago
And there is nothing they can do anyway like they are going to summon resources to try to find some guy who is probably in Russia or something
hnarn 4y ago
You think the entirety of the FBI takes a day off on national holidays?

Sebb767 4y ago

Slightly off-topic, but who is this @ic3 and why does he tag them in the same way as the FBI? Here's the account, for reference: https://twitter.com/ic3 https://twitter.com/ic3 . Doesn't look like an official to me.

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kube-system 4y ago
Clearly he meant https://www.ic3.gov/ https://www.ic3.gov/ but tagged a wrong account.
- logifail 4y ago
  > Clearly he meant https://www.ic3.gov/ https://www.ic3.gov/ but tagged a wrong account I use Twitter solely for moaning at service providers who respond [far!] faster on Twitter than they do by phone or email, but .. umm ... doesn't this [common] mistake demonstrate how broken this approach is?

kristianc 4y ago

Every crypto hack is followed by a swift call for a centralised authority to intervene.

nemo44x 4y ago
Why is that inconsistent? There’s a lot of people that believe governments only legit purpose is to protect people and their property.
- KptMarchewa 4y ago
  Then don't make systems aimed only at removing government authority around many. Governance for me, but not for thee
- CodexArcana 4y ago
  In order for governments to do that the systems have to have a way for an authority to intervene and reverse the transaction... Which is expressly impossible to do without creating a fork of the chian... Which is pretty contrary to the ethos of the white papers for Bitcoin.
  - nemo44x 4y ago
    To recoup the loss possibly, but that’s not necessarily governments job. The governments job would be to investigate the theft in an attempt to charge a suspect(s) with a crime against another person. If the property is replaceable by the charged parties then that could be used by the government as a consideration in plea bargaining or sentencing. But if it’s gone then hopefully the plaintiff purchased insurance on it.

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mrtksn 4y ago

I'm confused why he even is interested in reaching these governmental organisations. Isn't it the idea of "code is the law" a pillar of the crypto movement? I don't claim that the person in question did this but as a thought experiment IMHO stealing Bitcoin is oxymoron because the transactions are happening in the realm of zero trust computational environment. The whole premise is that this is a trust-less system which means that we shouldn't even attempt to trust in anything about the wallet movements. Maybe it was a handshake deal that went sour afterwards?

paulpauper 4y ago

And there is nothing they can do anyway like they are going to summon resources to try to find some guy who is probably in Russia or something

hnarn 4y ago

You think the entirety of the FBI takes a day off on national holidays?