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But Lula got arrested by the judiciary, right? How do you reconcile that with what you're saying?

by hfbff 4y ago

matheusmoreira 4y ago
He was judged guilty by lower court judges. Supreme court judges who support Lula essentially erased his crimes. They went on to implement literal censorship before, during and after the elections, making a mockery of our constitution. I expect the persecution to get worse.
- chem83 4y ago
  So the Supreme Court judges are corrupt because they pointed to problems in the process that warranted a mistrial, ultimately favoring the candidate you don’t like. But the lower court judges are guaranteed to be neutral because they convicted Lula. Right. You don’t realize, but your bias is showing, kid.
  - matheusmoreira 4y ago
    The judges who trashed years of serious investigations because of some bullshit jurisdiction technicality, allowed the corrupt leader of the most scandalous party in the country to run for president and did everything in their power to get him elected? Yeah, just looking out for proper due process. Absolutely. Bias? I don't give a shit, "kid". Do you have any idea what it feels like to have a president you know is a criminal rule over you? It's one thing to suspect, it's another thing to know. And he will rule over us, regardless of elected congress or senate, because the supreme court judges will force whatever law he wants into effect. Do you have any idea what it feels like to watch videos of prisoners cheering and drug traffickers celebrating with gunfire after his victory?
    - borski 4y ago
      > Do you have any idea what it feels like to have a president you know is a criminal rule over you? Yes, actually, we had 4 years of it from 2016-2020, and it came very close to not ending when he lost the 2020 election but never conceded.
      - zozbot234 4y ago
        Bolsonaro did concede. He immediately gave his greenlight to an orderly transition of power pursuant to the Constitution, which amounts to conceding wrt. the result.
        borski 4y ago
        I agree. I was referring to the US, as the parent was asking if anyone had experience living under a president they knew were a criminal, even if it hadn’t been officially proven, and my assumption was they meant “outside Brazil.”
        matheusmoreira 4y ago
        He was talking about Trump.
    - hashtag-til 4y ago
      Not really sure which videos are those. The only thing I see is a desperate attemp to argue in favour of Bolsonaro’s disastrous goverment with all the “far-right whatsapp” playbook.
      - matheusmoreira 4y ago
        > Not really sure which videos are those. Of course not. You want me to post them or something? I had links, they were all taken down but I saved them. > The only thing I see is a desperate attemp to argue in favour of Bolsonaro’s disastrous goverment with all the “far-right whatsapp” playbook. I don't even support Bolsonaro. I just don't support your president either.

But Lula got arrested by the judiciary, right? How do you reconcile that with what you're saying?

by hfbff 4y ago

But Lula got arrested by the judiciary, right? How do you reconcile that with what you're saying?

He was judged guilty by lower court judges. Supreme court judges who support Lula essentially erased his crimes. They went on to implement literal censorship before, during and after the elections, making a mockery of our constitution. I expect the persecution to get worse.

chem83 4y ago
So the Supreme Court judges are corrupt because they pointed to problems in the process that warranted a mistrial, ultimately favoring the candidate you don’t like. But the lower court judges are guaranteed to be neutral because they convicted Lula. Right. You don’t realize, but your bias is showing, kid.
- matheusmoreira 4y ago
  The judges who trashed years of serious investigations because of some bullshit jurisdiction technicality, allowed the corrupt leader of the most scandalous party in the country to run for president and did everything in their power to get him elected? Yeah, just looking out for proper due process. Absolutely. Bias? I don't give a shit, "kid". Do you have any idea what it feels like to have a president you know is a criminal rule over you? It's one thing to suspect, it's another thing to know. And he will rule over us, regardless of elected congress or senate, because the supreme court judges will force whatever law he wants into effect. Do you have any idea what it feels like to watch videos of prisoners cheering and drug traffickers celebrating with gunfire after his victory?
  - borski 4y ago
    > Do you have any idea what it feels like to have a president you know is a criminal rule over you? Yes, actually, we had 4 years of it from 2016-2020, and it came very close to not ending when he lost the 2020 election but never conceded.
    - zozbot234 4y ago
      Bolsonaro did concede. He immediately gave his greenlight to an orderly transition of power pursuant to the Constitution, which amounts to conceding wrt. the result.
      - borski 4y ago
        I agree. I was referring to the US, as the parent was asking if anyone had experience living under a president they knew were a criminal, even if it hadn’t been officially proven, and my assumption was they meant “outside Brazil.”
      - matheusmoreira 4y ago
        He was talking about Trump.
  - hashtag-til 4y ago
    Not really sure which videos are those. The only thing I see is a desperate attemp to argue in favour of Bolsonaro’s disastrous goverment with all the “far-right whatsapp” playbook.
    - matheusmoreira 4y ago
      > Not really sure which videos are those. Of course not. You want me to post them or something? I had links, they were all taken down but I saved them. > The only thing I see is a desperate attemp to argue in favour of Bolsonaro’s disastrous goverment with all the “far-right whatsapp” playbook. I don't even support Bolsonaro. I just don't support your president either.