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The year of the predictions :smiley_face: I think the one that's mostly going to be correct is Medvedev one [1], definitely the most interesting and credible o

The year of the predictions :smiley_face: I think the one that's mostly going to be correct is Medvedev one [1], definitely the most interesting and credible one [1] - https://twitter.com/MedvedevRussiaE/status/1607487338401206273 https://twitter.com/MedvedevRussiaE/status/16074873384012062...

mikeyouse 4y ago
That list of Russian wishcasting is completely absurd. The UK is going to rejoin the EU and the EU is going to collapse? In 2023? The 4th Reich? Elon Musk who literally cannot be president will become president in a year without an election? Of some random states that joined with Mexico in a civil war? How can you take any piece of that list as something reasonable when it shares the same origin as some of the dumbest things I’ve seen printed?
- azinman2 4y ago
  I assume it’s satire
  - grey-area 4y ago
    No, the fascist regime in Russia really is this divorced from reality.
    - azinman2 4y ago
      It starts off saying here are conservatives guesses for 2023. Then what follows is nothing but conservative. France and a new 4th riche go to war? It has to be satire.
      - dragonwriter 4y ago
        > It starts off saying here are conservatives guesses for 2023. No, it starts of with: On the New Year’s Eve, everybody’s into making predictions Many come up with futuristic hypotheses, as if competing to single out the wildest, and even the most absurd ones. Here’s our humble contribution. What can happen in 2023: “Conservative” is not mentioned.
        azinman2 4y ago
        Well it’s contrasting the wildest and absurd predictions, then says here’s our humble contribution. Semantically they’re equivalent.
        AnimalMuppet 4y ago
        No, it could be saying "here's our humble contribution to the contest for the wildest and most absurd predictions." Which... yeah, if that's the intent, I'd say he did pretty well...
      - grey-area 4y ago
        He was possibly drunk leading to exaggerated claims (he’s often drunk), but delusion is definitely required to serve Putin. It is not satire, this is the previous prime minister and president of Russia.
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    > I assume it’s satire The first tweet casts it in light of an ongoing competition of extreme radical predictions, so I expect it is expected to be taken nonseriously. OTOH, its also not a source that posts casual jokes, there is a serious propaganda purpose in each of the items chosen – like much advertising and propaganda, its not the literal message that is the point, but the ideas it plants below the surface.
throwyawayyyy 4y ago
It's a... weird list. Why is number 2 the UK rejoining the EU? Even if Labour get into power tomorrow, that's not going to happen. (Even if the _Lib Dems_ somehow get into power tomorrow, it's not going to happen.) That boat has sailed and everyone knows it (and I'm saying this as someone who'd like us to rejoin, but also as someone with, apparently, more understanding of political possibility than him). Number 4, "the formerly existing Ukraine". Riiight. But I thought it never existed, according to Russian propaganda..? In Number 6 "Poland repartitioned in the process" I'm seeing maaaajor projection. It's not the West that wants to storm in and repartition it though, right? Number 7, Northern Ireland rejoining the rest of Ireland is... actually kind of plausible. Could totally happen. Few people in Britain would care very much any more, and demographically it's been on the cards for a while. It's a totally reasonable prediction in an otherwise batshit list.
tgv 4y ago
> The Fourth Reich will be created ... War will break out between France and the Fourth Reich He says what? And then Elon Musk as president of a seceded Texas? And the bloody tech billionaire himself drops in in agreement? It's nothing short of revealing.
- Kukumber 4y ago
  I shared a link about Texas few months ago already [1] It's known fact that the famous "Franco-German couple" is in big trouble Another evidence was when Scholz didn't invite his "friend" France for his "business trip" in China ;) [2] [1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33127236 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33127236 [2] - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-03/germany-s-solo-trip-to-beijing-exposes-europe-s-dilemma-on-china https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-03/germany-s...
  - tgv 4y ago
    You're serious? What are you, a cheap Russian asset?
    - Kukumber 4y ago
      Whether i am serious or not doesn't change the facts nor does it changes what the press says about it, i just share the press articles, all of them are from reputable sources and from the West Let's debate about them, and keep it civil and polite, thanks
      - tgv 4y ago
        Medvedev is a dictatorial, fascist war criminal. How in the hell are the lies and propaganda he tweets interesting? He's just throwing oil on the fire, hoping to divide the West and kill a few more Ukrainians. And you are complicit.
        Kukumber 4y ago
        You sir deserve an Oscar too! https://streamable.com/hgmrfm https://streamable.com/hgmrfm
babyshake 4y ago
If you predict that California will secede from the United States in 2023, you clearly don't spend a lot of time in California.
AnimalMuppet 4y ago
Wow. If he's serious, all I can say is "You go home to bed, and do your dreaming there." (I stole that line from somewhere, but it fits...)

mikeyouse 4y ago

That list of Russian wishcasting is completely absurd. The UK is going to rejoin the EU and the EU is going to collapse? In 2023? The 4th Reich? Elon Musk who literally cannot be president will become president in a year without an election? Of some random states that joined with Mexico in a civil war? How can you take any piece of that list as something reasonable when it shares the same origin as some of the dumbest things I’ve seen printed?

azinman2 4y ago
I assume it’s satire
- grey-area 4y ago
  No, the fascist regime in Russia really is this divorced from reality.
  - azinman2 4y ago
    It starts off saying here are conservatives guesses for 2023. Then what follows is nothing but conservative. France and a new 4th riche go to war? It has to be satire.
    - dragonwriter 4y ago
      > It starts off saying here are conservatives guesses for 2023. No, it starts of with: On the New Year’s Eve, everybody’s into making predictions Many come up with futuristic hypotheses, as if competing to single out the wildest, and even the most absurd ones. Here’s our humble contribution. What can happen in 2023: “Conservative” is not mentioned.
      - azinman2 4y ago
        Well it’s contrasting the wildest and absurd predictions, then says here’s our humble contribution. Semantically they’re equivalent.
        AnimalMuppet 4y ago
        No, it could be saying "here's our humble contribution to the contest for the wildest and most absurd predictions." Which... yeah, if that's the intent, I'd say he did pretty well...
    - grey-area 4y ago
      He was possibly drunk leading to exaggerated claims (he’s often drunk), but delusion is definitely required to serve Putin. It is not satire, this is the previous prime minister and president of Russia.
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > I assume it’s satire The first tweet casts it in light of an ongoing competition of extreme radical predictions, so I expect it is expected to be taken nonseriously. OTOH, its also not a source that posts casual jokes, there is a serious propaganda purpose in each of the items chosen – like much advertising and propaganda, its not the literal message that is the point, but the ideas it plants below the surface.

throwyawayyyy 4y ago

It's a... weird list. Why is number 2 the UK rejoining the EU? Even if Labour get into power tomorrow, that's not going to happen. (Even if the _Lib Dems_ somehow get into power tomorrow, it's not going to happen.) That boat has sailed and everyone knows it (and I'm saying this as someone who'd like us to rejoin, but also as someone with, apparently, more understanding of political possibility than him). Number 4, "the formerly existing Ukraine". Riiight. But I thought it never existed, according to Russian propaganda..? In Number 6 "Poland repartitioned in the process" I'm seeing maaaajor projection. It's not the West that wants to storm in and repartition it though, right? Number 7, Northern Ireland rejoining the rest of Ireland is... actually kind of plausible. Could totally happen. Few people in Britain would care very much any more, and demographically it's been on the cards for a while. It's a totally reasonable prediction in an otherwise batshit list.

tgv 4y ago

> The Fourth Reich will be created ... War will break out between France and the Fourth Reich He says what? And then Elon Musk as president of a seceded Texas? And the bloody tech billionaire himself drops in in agreement? It's nothing short of revealing.

Kukumber 4y ago
I shared a link about Texas few months ago already [1] It's known fact that the famous "Franco-German couple" is in big trouble Another evidence was when Scholz didn't invite his "friend" France for his "business trip" in China ;) [2] [1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33127236 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33127236 [2] - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-03/germany-s-solo-trip-to-beijing-exposes-europe-s-dilemma-on-china https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-03/germany-s...
- tgv 4y ago
  You're serious? What are you, a cheap Russian asset?
  - Kukumber 4y ago
    Whether i am serious or not doesn't change the facts nor does it changes what the press says about it, i just share the press articles, all of them are from reputable sources and from the West Let's debate about them, and keep it civil and polite, thanks
    - tgv 4y ago
      Medvedev is a dictatorial, fascist war criminal. How in the hell are the lies and propaganda he tweets interesting? He's just throwing oil on the fire, hoping to divide the West and kill a few more Ukrainians. And you are complicit.
      - Kukumber 4y ago
        You sir deserve an Oscar too! https://streamable.com/hgmrfm https://streamable.com/hgmrfm

babyshake 4y ago

If you predict that California will secede from the United States in 2023, you clearly don't spend a lot of time in California.

AnimalMuppet 4y ago

Wow. If he's serious, all I can say is "You go home to bed, and do your dreaming there." (I stole that line from somewhere, but it fits...)