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None of this is as interesting as most people seem to think. Businesses do lots of stuff to negotiate and renegotiate and bully / squeeze / etc. each other. I

None of this is as interesting as most people seem to think. Businesses do lots of stuff to negotiate and renegotiate and bully / squeeze / etc. each other. It will likely be worked out without the lawsuit actually making its way through the court system.

Bilal_io 4y ago
The case doesn't need to be interesting to warrant highlighting. Musk is the person of interest here. Also, lawsuits are usually a method to force the other party to sit and talk. As an example, Texas law requires mediation before being able to see a judge, including things like divorce. I've heard that between 70% to 80% of cases get settled in mediation (not sure if this statistic is specific to Texas or not)
- jeffbee 4y ago
  I don’t know why anyone would think otherwise, but a mediator will simply advise Twitter that they are required to pay the rent. There isn’t a negotiating tactic here that would actually work. A court would order them to pay and damage and costs and fees too. Short of bankruptcy Twitter or any organization is required to perform their end of contracts.
  - starkd 4y ago
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    - jeffbee 4y ago
      This dispute isn't about their HQ, it's about some random office space elsewhere. And I don't see how moving an organization's titular headquarters has the effect of abrogating a commercial lease.
    - basketdryer 4y ago
      > Musk can easily move the HQ out of California And a commercial landlord in downtown SF can just as easily find another tenant to fill the space. Playing hardball requires the other side to actually give a shit if you walk away from the table: Finding another tenant might be a hassle for the landlord, but certainly no more of one (and very likely much less of one) than Twitter moving the company HQ would be.
33955985 4y ago
> Businesses do lots of stuff to negotiate and renegotiate and bully / squeeze / etc. each other. The United States elected a President who bragged about doing exactly this, so it’s a little odd that it appears unfamiliar to most here.
- gdpr2022ap 4y ago
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- aSithLord 4y ago
  If only people becoming millionaires on a $180k/year salary would actually write laws and read them before passing.

Bilal_io 4y ago

The case doesn't need to be interesting to warrant highlighting. Musk is the person of interest here. Also, lawsuits are usually a method to force the other party to sit and talk. As an example, Texas law requires mediation before being able to see a judge, including things like divorce. I've heard that between 70% to 80% of cases get settled in mediation (not sure if this statistic is specific to Texas or not)

jeffbee 4y ago
I don’t know why anyone would think otherwise, but a mediator will simply advise Twitter that they are required to pay the rent. There isn’t a negotiating tactic here that would actually work. A court would order them to pay and damage and costs and fees too. Short of bankruptcy Twitter or any organization is required to perform their end of contracts.
- starkd 4y ago
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  - jeffbee 4y ago
    This dispute isn't about their HQ, it's about some random office space elsewhere. And I don't see how moving an organization's titular headquarters has the effect of abrogating a commercial lease.
  - basketdryer 4y ago
    > Musk can easily move the HQ out of California And a commercial landlord in downtown SF can just as easily find another tenant to fill the space. Playing hardball requires the other side to actually give a shit if you walk away from the table: Finding another tenant might be a hassle for the landlord, but certainly no more of one (and very likely much less of one) than Twitter moving the company HQ would be.

33955985 4y ago

> Businesses do lots of stuff to negotiate and renegotiate and bully / squeeze / etc. each other. The United States elected a President who bragged about doing exactly this, so it’s a little odd that it appears unfamiliar to most here.

gdpr2022ap 4y ago
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aSithLord 4y ago
If only people becoming millionaires on a $180k/year salary would actually write laws and read them before passing.