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> Actually it's the opposite. The UK was dumb enough to give up the single market, freedom of movement, common standards, common politics, solidarity. The negat

> Actually it's the opposite. The UK was dumb enough to give up the single market, freedom of movement, common standards, common politics, solidarity. The negative effects of the Brexit are plain to see and the younger generation in the UK will demand the benefits back. Those lost the most because of Brexit. > The EU is already a huge success. I'd love to hear some proof of this That's debatable and you'd want to bring some data if you're debating this. I live in EU but I'd live in the UK if it weren't for the horrible weather. At least they don't have the immigration and poverty of the local population problem (which turns into thefts) that southern europe has. Not to mention the covid bill which we'll have to pay within 10 years which the UK skipped.

lispm 4y ago
The UK paid in form of excess mortality. Nothing to be proud of. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores-projected-baseline-by-age?country=DEU~GBR https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores... > At least they don't have the immigration and poverty of the local population problem UK? The UK had some of the regions with high poverty in the EU. Outside of London there are regions of high poverty. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_Kingdom Just three years ago: https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2019/12/11/the-uks-poorest-regions-are-falling-behind-the-rest-of-europe/ https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2019/12/11/the-uks-poore... Brexit makes it all only worse. Now you need to compare the UK with the poorer regions of the EU to look better. The UK itself has one extremely rich region (inner London) and a lot of medium to poor regions. UK regions compared to the EU average in 2014: https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/05/02/article-2617938-1D85574A00000578-913_634x397.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/05/02/article-2617938-1... Where do people struggle to not hunger? https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/map-reveals-uk-residents-struggling-21113886 https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/map-reveals-uk-re... Immigration? That's on an all-time high in the UK: https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/news/2022/08/25/immigration-at-all-time-record-level-with-record-1-1-million-visas-issued-to-come-and-live-in-the-uk https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/news/2022/08/25/immigration... Migrants are now coming from outside of the EU: https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/D09F/production/_127770435_migration_v3-nc.png.webp https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/D09F/production/...

lispm 4y ago

The UK paid in form of excess mortality. Nothing to be proud of. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores-projected-baseline-by-age?country=DEU~GBR https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores... > At least they don't have the immigration and poverty of the local population problem UK? The UK had some of the regions with high poverty in the EU. Outside of London there are regions of high poverty. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_Kingdom Just three years ago: https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2019/12/11/the-uks-poorest-regions-are-falling-behind-the-rest-of-europe/ https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2019/12/11/the-uks-poore... Brexit makes it all only worse. Now you need to compare the UK with the poorer regions of the EU to look better. The UK itself has one extremely rich region (inner London) and a lot of medium to poor regions. UK regions compared to the EU average in 2014: https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/05/02/article-2617938-1D85574A00000578-913_634x397.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/05/02/article-2617938-1... Where do people struggle to not hunger? https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/map-reveals-uk-residents-struggling-21113886 https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/map-reveals-uk-re... Immigration? That's on an all-time high in the UK: https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/news/2022/08/25/immigration-at-all-time-record-level-with-record-1-1-million-visas-issued-to-come-and-live-in-the-uk https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/news/2022/08/25/immigration... Migrants are now coming from outside of the EU: https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/D09F/production/_127770435_migration_v3-nc.png.webp https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/D09F/production/...