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> to me someone wanted to use linux but without using linux, at that point why don't they use windows or OSX? I also use linux on the desktop and the way it beh

> to me someone wanted to use linux but without using linux, at that point why don't they use windows or OSX? I also use linux on the desktop and the way it behaves matches my thinking process, If I wanted it to be used as Windows or OSX I would be using Windows or OSX People want Linux to act like other operating systems because: 1. They want an easy alternative that doesn’t require extensive relearning should their original OS of choice become unpalatable for some reason 2. Advocates of desktop Linux have endlessly sung praises about how customizable it is and how that flexibility is a core tenet, so why shouldn’t it be able to act identically to Windows or macOS, at least as far as UI goes? The first is particularly big, because remember that at this point a lot of people have decades of usage of Windows/macOS under their belt, and even if switching to Linux is a practical consideration for them, such users probably aren’t keen on tossing out all their little bits of power user knowledge and productivity boosting tricks and having to start out from almost scratch.

EamonnMR 4y ago
Part of this is about distro selection. I have a decade plus of windows9x, XP, and 7 experience, so I use Lubuntu which works pretty much exactly like they did, and is honestly less surprising/confusing than Windows 10 (I skipped 8.) My understanding is that there are also distros that closely match the mac experience. If you pick up a distro like mainline Ubuntu you might be confronted with potentially confusing new opinions about how desktops should work. I lucked out and tried it back in the Gnome 2 days when it felt like XP.
- kitsunesoba 4y ago
  There are distros/DEs that get within shooting distance of the Windows experience but don’t quite achieve it. The devil is in the details. There’s nothing that replicates macOS unfortunately. Many point to GNOME, but it’s much more like iPadOS than macOS, or to elementaryOS but it only shares some aesthetics with core features like the global menubar or super-based (as opposed to control-based) key shortcuts being entirely absent. For the latter there’s hacks like Kinto[0] but this is the sort of thing that really needs to be part of the DE. [0]: https://kinto.sh/ https://kinto.sh/
  - lnxg33k1 4y ago
    >>> There are distros/DEs that get within shooting distance of the Windows experience but don’t quite achieve it. The devil is in the details. Well, a while ago Ubuntu implemented amazon ads in the start menu
MrPowerGamerBR 4y ago
> Advocates of desktop Linux have endlessly sung praises about how customizable it is and how that flexibility is a core tenet, so why shouldn’t it be able to act identically to Windows or macOS, at least as far as UI goes? This is something that I always bothered me. I love using middle click to scroll (you middle click, then move your mouse up and down) in Windows, but there isn't any way to do this in Linux. You can enable it in Firefox for Linux but not on the entire OS, and trying to ask people about this just makes people reply with "why would you want to do this if the default is middle click to copy??". There are ways to sort of mimic this behavior, but none 100% matches how Windows work.
- kitsunesoba 4y ago
  Yeah I’m sure middle click copy is handy if you’re used to it, but for me “Copy == Command/Ctrl-C” is so deeply rooted at this point that I’d really rather not fight it if I don’t have to.

EamonnMR 4y ago

Part of this is about distro selection. I have a decade plus of windows9x, XP, and 7 experience, so I use Lubuntu which works pretty much exactly like they did, and is honestly less surprising/confusing than Windows 10 (I skipped 8.) My understanding is that there are also distros that closely match the mac experience. If you pick up a distro like mainline Ubuntu you might be confronted with potentially confusing new opinions about how desktops should work. I lucked out and tried it back in the Gnome 2 days when it felt like XP.

kitsunesoba 4y ago
There are distros/DEs that get within shooting distance of the Windows experience but don’t quite achieve it. The devil is in the details. There’s nothing that replicates macOS unfortunately. Many point to GNOME, but it’s much more like iPadOS than macOS, or to elementaryOS but it only shares some aesthetics with core features like the global menubar or super-based (as opposed to control-based) key shortcuts being entirely absent. For the latter there’s hacks like Kinto[0] but this is the sort of thing that really needs to be part of the DE. [0]: https://kinto.sh/ https://kinto.sh/
- lnxg33k1 4y ago
  >>> There are distros/DEs that get within shooting distance of the Windows experience but don’t quite achieve it. The devil is in the details. Well, a while ago Ubuntu implemented amazon ads in the start menu

MrPowerGamerBR 4y ago

> Advocates of desktop Linux have endlessly sung praises about how customizable it is and how that flexibility is a core tenet, so why shouldn’t it be able to act identically to Windows or macOS, at least as far as UI goes? This is something that I always bothered me. I love using middle click to scroll (you middle click, then move your mouse up and down) in Windows, but there isn't any way to do this in Linux. You can enable it in Firefox for Linux but not on the entire OS, and trying to ask people about this just makes people reply with "why would you want to do this if the default is middle click to copy??". There are ways to sort of mimic this behavior, but none 100% matches how Windows work.

kitsunesoba 4y ago
Yeah I’m sure middle click copy is handy if you’re used to it, but for me “Copy == Command/Ctrl-C” is so deeply rooted at this point that I’d really rather not fight it if I don’t have to.