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What issues do you run into? I run PopOS on an ancient ThinkPad T420 and a new Lenovo P15 - no issues on either one. Wifi works. Decent battery life.

hutzlibu 4y ago
The classic problems are suspend and hibernation issues, along with worse performance and battery life compared to windows (with manufactur optimised drivers).
wildrhythms 4y ago
I can't get Linux to not drain my laptop battery when the lid is closed. On my M1 Air I can close the lid and come back a week later with maybe a couple percent less battery; on my Framework with PopOS it drains after just a day (default settings).
- fullstop 4y ago
  Same experience here. Also, getting Pop!_OS configured to hibernate looked quite daunting and not worth the effort if you have an existing install.
- hatch_q 4y ago
  Probably goes to S2 instead of S3 deep sleep. Had the same issue on microsoft surface (running Linux on it) - i needed to tweak few kernel flags to force it into deep sleep.
jnovek 4y ago
I run Linux on a T480s and it’s pretty good, but there are issues. I’m using Ubuntu 22.04. It’s comfortably usable for me but it would be silly to pretend that these things aren’t major problems for many (perhaps a majority) users. Off the top of my head: - Waking from sleep with the lid closed while using an external monitor straight-up doesn’t work. Not with keyboard and mouse input, not even by hitting the power button. - Thunderbolt hotplugging JUST started working in 22.04, and it still flakes out quite a bit. I think my laptop would normally maintain days to weeks of uptime if it weren’t for Thunderbolt-related issues. - Battery life in-use is like three hours, max. I’ve never used anything but Linux in this machine so I don’t know how battery life stacks up in Windows, but I know that I was using a MacBook Air at work over a decade ago that did 6+ hours. I strongly prefer to run Linux and I’ve used it as my primary desktop OS since 2001, but I can’t think of a single Linux laptop in the past 22 years that hasn’t presented me with significant problems that I had to either work around or accept.
- wildrhythms 4y ago
  +1 to all of these, plus any time I need some sort of mixed UI scaling, like 1.25x on the laptop and 1.75x on my extended display, it introduces a whole skew of problems, like applications not rescaling themselves when they move to the other display, blurry text all over the place, when I disconnect the external display out of frustration the windows don't migrate back to the internal display properly... ironically i3wm/swaywm with some very specific configuration works best for me, but the out-of-the-box experience on common DEs is awful. Windows and Mac OS have largely solved these problems.
- bluedino 4y ago
  Have you activated tlp? That should double your battery life, I use a T490 and had to install that to get battery life comparable to when running Windows
sirius87 4y ago
Two things I really miss having moved to Linux are the MBP touchpad and power management (battery-life/sleep/hibernate). There are also weird audio/mic UX issues. Not sure if this is the same across all platforms, but - I usually have my laptop hooked up to an external monitor, audio output set to the external monitor, and my headphones plugged into the monitor. Yesterday, I locked my desktop and stepped away from my desk with the music still playing. When I came back, music was playing out loud from the laptop speaker. That's because the monitor went to sleep, so the HDMI audio sink went away, and the OS "helpfully" switched audio output to the laptop speaker which was set to full volume. Logically, it makes sense that would happen. Clearly, I am to blame.

hutzlibu 4y ago

The classic problems are suspend and hibernation issues, along with worse performance and battery life compared to windows (with manufactur optimised drivers).

wildrhythms 4y ago

I can't get Linux to not drain my laptop battery when the lid is closed. On my M1 Air I can close the lid and come back a week later with maybe a couple percent less battery; on my Framework with PopOS it drains after just a day (default settings).

fullstop 4y ago
Same experience here. Also, getting Pop!_OS configured to hibernate looked quite daunting and not worth the effort if you have an existing install.
hatch_q 4y ago
Probably goes to S2 instead of S3 deep sleep. Had the same issue on microsoft surface (running Linux on it) - i needed to tweak few kernel flags to force it into deep sleep.

jnovek 4y ago

I run Linux on a T480s and it’s pretty good, but there are issues. I’m using Ubuntu 22.04. It’s comfortably usable for me but it would be silly to pretend that these things aren’t major problems for many (perhaps a majority) users. Off the top of my head: - Waking from sleep with the lid closed while using an external monitor straight-up doesn’t work. Not with keyboard and mouse input, not even by hitting the power button. - Thunderbolt hotplugging JUST started working in 22.04, and it still flakes out quite a bit. I think my laptop would normally maintain days to weeks of uptime if it weren’t for Thunderbolt-related issues. - Battery life in-use is like three hours, max. I’ve never used anything but Linux in this machine so I don’t know how battery life stacks up in Windows, but I know that I was using a MacBook Air at work over a decade ago that did 6+ hours. I strongly prefer to run Linux and I’ve used it as my primary desktop OS since 2001, but I can’t think of a single Linux laptop in the past 22 years that hasn’t presented me with significant problems that I had to either work around or accept.

wildrhythms 4y ago
+1 to all of these, plus any time I need some sort of mixed UI scaling, like 1.25x on the laptop and 1.75x on my extended display, it introduces a whole skew of problems, like applications not rescaling themselves when they move to the other display, blurry text all over the place, when I disconnect the external display out of frustration the windows don't migrate back to the internal display properly... ironically i3wm/swaywm with some very specific configuration works best for me, but the out-of-the-box experience on common DEs is awful. Windows and Mac OS have largely solved these problems.
bluedino 4y ago
Have you activated tlp? That should double your battery life, I use a T490 and had to install that to get battery life comparable to when running Windows

sirius87 4y ago

Two things I really miss having moved to Linux are the MBP touchpad and power management (battery-life/sleep/hibernate). There are also weird audio/mic UX issues. Not sure if this is the same across all platforms, but - I usually have my laptop hooked up to an external monitor, audio output set to the external monitor, and my headphones plugged into the monitor. Yesterday, I locked my desktop and stepped away from my desk with the music still playing. When I came back, music was playing out loud from the laptop speaker. That's because the monitor went to sleep, so the HDMI audio sink went away, and the OS "helpfully" switched audio output to the laptop speaker which was set to full volume. Logically, it makes sense that would happen. Clearly, I am to blame.