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I was more interested in the number of software engineers having almost doubled in three years. Did that really happen? Is there any explanation for that?

by oytis 4y ago

arcturus17 4y ago
The hyperexplosive growth of all tech (startups AND enterprise) in the period might be the big explanation. As to what explained that, possibly the chief factor was low interest rates, with other factors being Covid-led digitalization, growin demand for some hot sectors like crypto, fintech, AI, etc.
mike_hearn 4y ago
Measurement error.
- oytis 4y ago
  Yeah, honestly I was thinking they took two different studies with two different calculation methods and put them alongside.
ghaff 4y ago
Kotlin developers. From a fairly small base. RedMonk's programming language rankings have it at #17--just above Ruse and just behind Go. To put things in perspective that ranking still has Java at #3, one spot down from ten years ago (replaced by Python).
- oytis 4y ago
  No I mean the total number of developers. I know software is growing, but having doubled since 2019 (and it wasn't small in 2019 either) is beyond reasonable.
  - ghaff 4y ago
    The doubling of developers quote from the article is specifically Kotlin, which it seems plausible with respect to--even if the overall quoted number seems like a lot. It would represent about 15% of developers worldwide. SlashData, another developer survey platform, published data in 2022 showing that there are now 5 million Kotlin developers worldwide, and that the number of Kotlin developers doubled in one year. I agree doubling of developers overall doesn't make sense. I quick look suggests maybe up to about a 10% increase.
    - oytis 4y ago
      I'm referring to the first sentence > In 2019, it was estimated that there were 18 million developers worldwide. That number is now estimated to be 31.1 million by SlashData. OK, it's not exactly doubling, just 73% increase. Still 13 million developers summoned from the void in three years.
      - ghaff 4y ago
        Ah, I missed that. Yes, highly improbable. I wonder if the article is drawing from two different sources.

I was more interested in the number of software engineers having almost doubled in three years. Did that really happen? Is there any explanation for that?

by oytis 4y ago

I was more interested in the number of software engineers having almost doubled in three years. Did that really happen? Is there any explanation for that?

arcturus17 4y ago

The hyperexplosive growth of all tech (startups AND enterprise) in the period might be the big explanation. As to what explained that, possibly the chief factor was low interest rates, with other factors being Covid-led digitalization, growin demand for some hot sectors like crypto, fintech, AI, etc.

mike_hearn 4y ago

Measurement error.

oytis 4y ago
Yeah, honestly I was thinking they took two different studies with two different calculation methods and put them alongside.

ghaff 4y ago

Kotlin developers. From a fairly small base. RedMonk's programming language rankings have it at #17--just above Ruse and just behind Go. To put things in perspective that ranking still has Java at #3, one spot down from ten years ago (replaced by Python).

oytis 4y ago
No I mean the total number of developers. I know software is growing, but having doubled since 2019 (and it wasn't small in 2019 either) is beyond reasonable.
- ghaff 4y ago
  The doubling of developers quote from the article is specifically Kotlin, which it seems plausible with respect to--even if the overall quoted number seems like a lot. It would represent about 15% of developers worldwide. SlashData, another developer survey platform, published data in 2022 showing that there are now 5 million Kotlin developers worldwide, and that the number of Kotlin developers doubled in one year. I agree doubling of developers overall doesn't make sense. I quick look suggests maybe up to about a 10% increase.
  - oytis 4y ago
    I'm referring to the first sentence > In 2019, it was estimated that there were 18 million developers worldwide. That number is now estimated to be 31.1 million by SlashData. OK, it's not exactly doubling, just 73% increase. Still 13 million developers summoned from the void in three years.
    - ghaff 4y ago
      Ah, I missed that. Yes, highly improbable. I wonder if the article is drawing from two different sources.