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Having a quiet quitter on your team is one of the most demoralizing things you can experience at work. No, i don't expect anyone to work overtime or go out of t

by Too 4y ago

Having a quiet quitter on your team is one of the most demoralizing things you can experience at work. No, i don't expect anyone to work overtime or go out of their ways to solve impossible deadlines. But someone who normally is capable, but constantly slip on easy assignments, delivering just enough to not raise managers eyebrows, abuse "work" from home and leave unfinished tasks for the rest of the team to clean up, clock-in but take a 3h lunch, etc, it's just depressing and toxic. Even if you enjoy your own role. Such behavior easily spread to the rest, that then also become complacent - Why clean up from others that have a good time at home? If someone wants to work less than 5 days a week, fine by me, just make that expectation very clear instead of allowing quiet quitting, not just between manager and employee, but also to the rest of the peers, to not raise any such bitter or envy.

ramraj07 4y ago
That’s not quite quitting, that’s just a lousy coworker. Every definition of quiet quitting is that you do the minimum requirements of the job and that’s it. This doesn’t mean you secretly play hooky with work or actively slipping on whatever easy assignments you talk about. Also why haven’t you fired them? If your team is unable to see that this person is deadweight why are you still in such a crappy team?
- Too 4y ago
  Ok, the spectrum is of course very wide. Usually defined more mildly than I expected, after reading more about it. Sounds like normal work life balance of leaving on time, nothing that needed a new catch-phrase? Maybe this is more rare for Americans? And yes, the offenders were eventually fired for this. Drawing the line of how far it can go can be tough, post above is obviously exaggerated and more an accumulation of multiple smaller situations at different assignments.
  - andoryuu 4y ago
    > nothing that needed a new catch-phrase Of course it didn't. But how else would the "why do you ask for more pay when I ask for more work" managers shame their workers into unpaid overtimes?
tester457 4y ago
This is loud quitting
Beaver117 4y ago
They might be getting paid half as much as you and just found out. Or maybe they just stopped enjoying the work. Would you still blame them?
- Too 4y ago
  If you find out you are really getting paid half as your peers on same level. Talk to your manager and ask for a raise or that the alternative is you taking a step back to focus more on your family, openly. While gently reminding them that the job market is very hot right now. Quiet disagreement of any kind is just building tension and ends up harmful for all parties in the end. This should only be last resort after other options run out. Keep everybody’s expectations aligned. If that’s what quiet actually means here, I am a bit out of touch with tiktok.
  - Beaver117 4y ago
    It's not from tiktok influence as much as Blind. In most companies you won't get a raise just for asking for it, even if you are underpaid. The almost unanimous advice is to interview, get an offer so you have leverage, and then ask for a raise or just take it and leave. But that's not always practical, so it's simpler to just reduce your output to just enough that you don't get fired. Yes it hurts the team but it's the best outcome for the quiet quitter

by Too 4y ago

ramraj07 4y ago

That’s not quite quitting, that’s just a lousy coworker. Every definition of quiet quitting is that you do the minimum requirements of the job and that’s it. This doesn’t mean you secretly play hooky with work or actively slipping on whatever easy assignments you talk about. Also why haven’t you fired them? If your team is unable to see that this person is deadweight why are you still in such a crappy team?

Too 4y ago
Ok, the spectrum is of course very wide. Usually defined more mildly than I expected, after reading more about it. Sounds like normal work life balance of leaving on time, nothing that needed a new catch-phrase? Maybe this is more rare for Americans? And yes, the offenders were eventually fired for this. Drawing the line of how far it can go can be tough, post above is obviously exaggerated and more an accumulation of multiple smaller situations at different assignments.
- andoryuu 4y ago
  > nothing that needed a new catch-phrase Of course it didn't. But how else would the "why do you ask for more pay when I ask for more work" managers shame their workers into unpaid overtimes?

tester457 4y ago

This is loud quitting

Beaver117 4y ago

They might be getting paid half as much as you and just found out. Or maybe they just stopped enjoying the work. Would you still blame them?

Too 4y ago
If you find out you are really getting paid half as your peers on same level. Talk to your manager and ask for a raise or that the alternative is you taking a step back to focus more on your family, openly. While gently reminding them that the job market is very hot right now. Quiet disagreement of any kind is just building tension and ends up harmful for all parties in the end. This should only be last resort after other options run out. Keep everybody’s expectations aligned. If that’s what quiet actually means here, I am a bit out of touch with tiktok.
- Beaver117 4y ago
  It's not from tiktok influence as much as Blind. In most companies you won't get a raise just for asking for it, even if you are underpaid. The almost unanimous advice is to interview, get an offer so you have leverage, and then ask for a raise or just take it and leave. But that's not always practical, so it's simpler to just reduce your output to just enough that you don't get fired. Yes it hurts the team but it's the best outcome for the quiet quitter