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Lawyers after big damages are always going to try to blame every one even tangentially related to a crime for that crime, which encourages a society where we mu

Lawyers after big damages are always going to try to blame every one even tangentially related to a crime for that crime, which encourages a society where we must presume every one guilty, until we prove them innocent, before engaging in a free market interaction with them. If cash were a bank that could pay damages, they would blame every crime where cash changed hands, for that crime, and it would become the most vilified bank in the world.

wolverine876 4y ago
The party suing in this case is the government.
- ETH_start 4y ago
  And lawyers get a sizable commission on whatever damages are awarded. Litigating against deep-pocketed parties is an industry.
  - wolverine876 4y ago
    The attorney general does not work on commission.
    - ETH_start 4y ago
      Is it confirmed that she's not hiring any law firms to assist in the litigation?
      - wolverine876 4y ago
        Do you have evidence of anyone receiving a commission? We don't just make up things - the AG is from Mars! - and ask for evidence to the contrary.
- bbbbb5 4y ago
  It's a bit weird to refer to the attorney general of the USVI as "the government", that's something you'd generally associate with the federal government. Not only that, said AG was apparently fired by the USVI government for bringing this suit, probably because the premise is fairly ridiculous https://viconsortium.com/vi-government/virgin-islands-attorneygeneral-denise-george-has-been-terminated- https://viconsortium.com/vi-government/virgin-islands-attorn...
  - wolverine876 4y ago
    > It's a bit weird to refer to the attorney general of the USVI as "the government", that's something you'd generally associate with the federal government. People have different experiences, of course, but I'm confident that it's commonplace - and correct - to refer to any such party as "the government". Ask an attorney.
    - bbbbb5 4y ago
      It is rather unusual to refer to USVI as just "the government" if you're anywhere outside of the USVI.
      - wolverine876 4y ago
        Hmm ... in any state or locality, the same terminology is used. And how often does anyone anywhere refer to the USVI attorney general? I doubt it's common enough for there to be a norm.
        bbbbb5 4y ago
        > Hmm ... in any state or locality, the same terminology is used Within the locality maybe, and not necessarily even then. State AGs bring suits all the time, how many news articles can you find referring to those suits as the government suing someone? I think none. These are typical examples https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-eric-trump-dodge-ny-fraud-lawsuit-2022-10?international=true&r=US&IR=T https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-eric-trump-dodg... https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/capital-region/environment/2022/10/12/dec-new-york-attorney-general-norlite-lawsuit https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/capital-region/environment... https://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/news/2022/11/01/ag-ferguson-files-suit-to-block.html https://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/news/2022/11/01/ag-fergu... https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-business/ellison-sues-target-owned-shipt-over-alleged-misclassification-of-workers https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-business/ellison-sues-t... Sometimes you might refer to "the state" (Which USVI isn't, so that doesn't make sense), but generally you will speak of the AG by either their name or "New York AG". > And how often does anyone anywhere refer to the USVI attorney general? If you search news.google.com for "epstein jp morgan", you will find that they generally do so every time. Even local USVI news don't speak of "the government". Besides, this is USVI litigating in federal court. In that context USVI obviously can not be "the government", even if they might be in USVI courts.

wolverine876 4y ago

The party suing in this case is the government.

ETH_start 4y ago
And lawyers get a sizable commission on whatever damages are awarded. Litigating against deep-pocketed parties is an industry.
- wolverine876 4y ago
  The attorney general does not work on commission.
  - ETH_start 4y ago
    Is it confirmed that she's not hiring any law firms to assist in the litigation?
    - wolverine876 4y ago
      Do you have evidence of anyone receiving a commission? We don't just make up things - the AG is from Mars! - and ask for evidence to the contrary.
bbbbb5 4y ago
It's a bit weird to refer to the attorney general of the USVI as "the government", that's something you'd generally associate with the federal government. Not only that, said AG was apparently fired by the USVI government for bringing this suit, probably because the premise is fairly ridiculous https://viconsortium.com/vi-government/virgin-islands-attorneygeneral-denise-george-has-been-terminated- https://viconsortium.com/vi-government/virgin-islands-attorn...
- wolverine876 4y ago
  > It's a bit weird to refer to the attorney general of the USVI as "the government", that's something you'd generally associate with the federal government. People have different experiences, of course, but I'm confident that it's commonplace - and correct - to refer to any such party as "the government". Ask an attorney.
  - bbbbb5 4y ago
    It is rather unusual to refer to USVI as just "the government" if you're anywhere outside of the USVI.
    - wolverine876 4y ago
      Hmm ... in any state or locality, the same terminology is used. And how often does anyone anywhere refer to the USVI attorney general? I doubt it's common enough for there to be a norm.
      - bbbbb5 4y ago
        > Hmm ... in any state or locality, the same terminology is used Within the locality maybe, and not necessarily even then. State AGs bring suits all the time, how many news articles can you find referring to those suits as the government suing someone? I think none. These are typical examples https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-eric-trump-dodge-ny-fraud-lawsuit-2022-10?international=true&r=US&IR=T https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-eric-trump-dodg... https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/capital-region/environment/2022/10/12/dec-new-york-attorney-general-norlite-lawsuit https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/capital-region/environment... https://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/news/2022/11/01/ag-ferguson-files-suit-to-block.html https://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/news/2022/11/01/ag-fergu... https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-business/ellison-sues-target-owned-shipt-over-alleged-misclassification-of-workers https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-business/ellison-sues-t... Sometimes you might refer to "the state" (Which USVI isn't, so that doesn't make sense), but generally you will speak of the AG by either their name or "New York AG". > And how often does anyone anywhere refer to the USVI attorney general? If you search news.google.com for "epstein jp morgan", you will find that they generally do so every time. Even local USVI news don't speak of "the government". Besides, this is USVI litigating in federal court. In that context USVI obviously can not be "the government", even if they might be in USVI courts.