> If we're going to be objective, technically the Chinese Communists are the greatest success for humanity; I think they've overseen the biggest upwards change

> If we're going to be objective, technically the Chinese Communists are the greatest success for humanity; I think they've overseen the biggest upwards change in living standards from when they came to power to today (even after the regressions of the Cultural Revolution). They have done a better job of preserving peace than almost any alternative superpower except maybe India. Huh!? No way. The CCP is a massive failure economically. Taiwan was part of China. Taiwan had massive growth while China was stagnant. Taiwan is one of the richest countries in the world, China is still one of the poorer countries in the world today. China ranks 66 below Costa Rica and Russia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nomi... The true successes are places like South Korea and Taiwan that started exactly in the same place as China and delivered massive economic growth in an incredibly short time.