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I don't want weapons. I want a stop to weapons and a start to peace negotiations.

by D_Alex 4y ago

tpmx 4y ago
From your profile: > Oil and gas industry, Perth, Western Australia. Oh. Wonder why that is. https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/crude-oil https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/crude-oil
- D_Alex 4y ago
  You are trying to make a point, but it escapes me. Can you be more direct?
  - tpmx 4y ago
    I think you want a "peace" so that your business area can rebound.
    - D_Alex 4y ago
      Wow... I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Apart from your absolutely incredible take on my character - my business area has really profited from the war: https://www.ft.com/content/7a70cee3-2891-4012-a22d-36363fadd33a https://www.ft.com/content/7a70cee3-2891-4012-a22d-36363fadd... "Woodside said that its revenue increased to $5.9bn in the September quarter, up 70 per cent from the previous quarter and a significant jump from the $1.6bn that the Perth-based company reported in the same quarter last year... ...Oil and gas companies have enjoyed a streak of record profits thanks to soaring energy prices caused by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine."
rfrey 4y ago
A stop to weapons means capitulation by Ukraine, rewarding Russian imperialism and brutal aggression, and a repeat of the atrocities in 3-5 years. You are advocating for continuing atrocities, and it is abhorrent.
- D_Alex 4y ago
  Peace is atrocities? and abhorrent? I read Orwell's 1984 in high school, and I never believed that we'd go there until now.
  - jacquesm 4y ago
    Your lack of being informed about the facts on the ground in the Russian occupied territories should not stop you from correcting that and reading up on it, then after you're done you can come back here and apologize to those in this thread that are under attack from Russian rockets as we write this. You can quote Orwell all day long but if you don't understand that one part of his view was that not standing up to tyranny and playing along with those that will eventually plow you under then you probably should go re-read that book as well.
    - jacquesm 4y ago
      > you under then you Apologies, insert 'is a mistake' between 'under then'.
    - D_Alex 4y ago
      >Your lack of being informed about the facts on the ground in the Russian occupied territories It is a bit hard to be well informed, since there are no "approved" journalists reporting from these territories. The only Western journalists there that I know of (Anne-Laure Bonnel, Anna Lipp and the rather hack-ish Patrick Lancaster) are not given much exposure on the mainstream channels. If you have not heard what they have to say, I suggest you correct that before warmongering any further.
      - jacquesm 4y ago
        Oh right, so all of the news coming out of Ukraine that you don't like and that contradicts the story that you'd like to be true is what we should believe. And you are quoting Orwell? Seriously. The thousands of people murdered, raped, tortured and mutilated for life are just making this up but you have the high ground.

I don't want weapons. I want a stop to weapons and a start to peace negotiations.

by D_Alex 4y ago

I don't want weapons. I want a stop to weapons and a start to peace negotiations.

tpmx 4y ago

From your profile: > Oil and gas industry, Perth, Western Australia. Oh. Wonder why that is. https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/crude-oil https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/crude-oil

D_Alex 4y ago
You are trying to make a point, but it escapes me. Can you be more direct?
- tpmx 4y ago
  I think you want a "peace" so that your business area can rebound.
  - D_Alex 4y ago
    Wow... I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Apart from your absolutely incredible take on my character - my business area has really profited from the war: https://www.ft.com/content/7a70cee3-2891-4012-a22d-36363fadd33a https://www.ft.com/content/7a70cee3-2891-4012-a22d-36363fadd... "Woodside said that its revenue increased to $5.9bn in the September quarter, up 70 per cent from the previous quarter and a significant jump from the $1.6bn that the Perth-based company reported in the same quarter last year... ...Oil and gas companies have enjoyed a streak of record profits thanks to soaring energy prices caused by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine."

rfrey 4y ago

A stop to weapons means capitulation by Ukraine, rewarding Russian imperialism and brutal aggression, and a repeat of the atrocities in 3-5 years. You are advocating for continuing atrocities, and it is abhorrent.

D_Alex 4y ago
Peace is atrocities? and abhorrent? I read Orwell's 1984 in high school, and I never believed that we'd go there until now.
- jacquesm 4y ago
  Your lack of being informed about the facts on the ground in the Russian occupied territories should not stop you from correcting that and reading up on it, then after you're done you can come back here and apologize to those in this thread that are under attack from Russian rockets as we write this. You can quote Orwell all day long but if you don't understand that one part of his view was that not standing up to tyranny and playing along with those that will eventually plow you under then you probably should go re-read that book as well.
  - jacquesm 4y ago
    > you under then you Apologies, insert 'is a mistake' between 'under then'.
  - D_Alex 4y ago
    >Your lack of being informed about the facts on the ground in the Russian occupied territories It is a bit hard to be well informed, since there are no "approved" journalists reporting from these territories. The only Western journalists there that I know of (Anne-Laure Bonnel, Anna Lipp and the rather hack-ish Patrick Lancaster) are not given much exposure on the mainstream channels. If you have not heard what they have to say, I suggest you correct that before warmongering any further.
    - jacquesm 4y ago
      Oh right, so all of the news coming out of Ukraine that you don't like and that contradicts the story that you'd like to be true is what we should believe. And you are quoting Orwell? Seriously. The thousands of people murdered, raped, tortured and mutilated for life are just making this up but you have the high ground.