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> The idea that the EU is to be 'allied' with the US against China is an US-centric view, and implies subservience to the US. No, it implies a realistic view o
by tick_tock_tick 4y ago
> The idea that the EU is to be 'allied' with the US against China is an US-centric view, and implies subservience to the US.
No, it implies a realistic view of the world. Until the EU can handle it's own self defense it's inherently an unbalanced power arrangement.
- mytailorisrich 4y agoEuropeans can defend themselves against all realistic threats. Through France they even have an independent nuclear deterrent. The claim that Europe needs the US is like an abusive relationship where the abuser keeps devaluing its victim to maintain dominance: "you need me, you're nothing without me, you can't look after yourself without me"... More generally, be it with the EU, China, or even India, the US need to come to terms with the fact that they are no longer the 'capo di tutti capi' and should treat others as equals. I realise that this is a position that is in China's interests but that is also in Europe's interests and, really in "anyone that is not the US"'s interests.
- wolverine876 4y ago> I realise that this is a position that is in China's interests but that is also in Europe's interests and, really in "anyone that is not the US"'s interests. It's not in the interests of people who want to be free, and desire peace and prosperity. The subtext of these arguments is that there is no difference between China and the US, their vision, their goals, etc. It's demonstrably untrue. You can see it in the number of allies China has, even in their own neighborhood - they all much prefer the US.