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I don't know if it is a bug or a design change but something I cannot stand with Ventura is that "sticky windows" are less sticky. In all versions prior to 13

I don't know if it is a bug or a design change but something I cannot stand with Ventura is that "sticky windows" are less sticky. In all versions prior to 13 when you move a window to the edge of the screen or against another app window it would "stick" just a bit. You could push past it if you wish but it is a nice way to align windows neatly without overlapping or going off screen. In 13 you can get it to do that but it seems far less "sticky" than it used to be. I noticed it immediately and hated it. Does anyone here know if this is a bug (it is still present in 13.1) or a design choice going forward?

ubercow13 4y ago
I just tried it and it seems to reliably stick if you slow down as you move it to the edge of the other window, like it's trying to detect if you have the intent to stick it to the other window. If you just move it quickly past, it doesn't stick at all.
- satysin 4y ago
  Yes but this is very different to how it has always been in the past. If you wanted to avoid the window sticking in the past you could hold the option key while you dragged the window, making it less sticky seems kind of strange.
  - pwinnski 4y ago
    But it doesn't make it less sticky, it just doesn't engage stickiness when you're moving quickly. This makes excellent sense, and is the sort of focus on user experience that Apple should be lauded for. That it marks a marginal change from long-existing behavior just means that the long-existing behavior wasn't optimal. The alternative would seem to be stop any and all development, as the optimal behavior has been reached in every aspect, which I don't think anybody could credibly argue.
    - satysin 4y ago
      This is where we disagree I guess :) To me they made the sticky window feature worse. It is still there but it is more finickity to use. I don't want to have to slow down and gently bump the window against another in the hope it works.
      - pwinnski 4y ago
        Okay, we can disagree on whether the feature is better or worse, but I think we agree they didn't make windows less sticky.
        satysin 4y ago
        What I mean by "less sticky" is that it requires more slow moving precision when aligning against an edge in order for the sticky window feature to activate. This is annoying for me when using a trackpad. They're still "sticky" in the literal sense that the feature is still there that I agree on :) In other words my complaint is that while sticky windows are still a feature it requires more effort to get it to work which makes the feature less useful to me. Ideally I would like to see an option where the user can set the sensitivity for the "stickiness". Probably not via a user facing option in the Settings app but a global 'defaults' command line tweak would be nice.

ubercow13 4y ago

I just tried it and it seems to reliably stick if you slow down as you move it to the edge of the other window, like it's trying to detect if you have the intent to stick it to the other window. If you just move it quickly past, it doesn't stick at all.

satysin 4y ago
Yes but this is very different to how it has always been in the past. If you wanted to avoid the window sticking in the past you could hold the option key while you dragged the window, making it less sticky seems kind of strange.
- pwinnski 4y ago
  But it doesn't make it less sticky, it just doesn't engage stickiness when you're moving quickly. This makes excellent sense, and is the sort of focus on user experience that Apple should be lauded for. That it marks a marginal change from long-existing behavior just means that the long-existing behavior wasn't optimal. The alternative would seem to be stop any and all development, as the optimal behavior has been reached in every aspect, which I don't think anybody could credibly argue.
  - satysin 4y ago
    This is where we disagree I guess :) To me they made the sticky window feature worse. It is still there but it is more finickity to use. I don't want to have to slow down and gently bump the window against another in the hope it works.
    - pwinnski 4y ago
      Okay, we can disagree on whether the feature is better or worse, but I think we agree they didn't make windows less sticky.
      - satysin 4y ago
        What I mean by "less sticky" is that it requires more slow moving precision when aligning against an edge in order for the sticky window feature to activate. This is annoying for me when using a trackpad. They're still "sticky" in the literal sense that the feature is still there that I agree on :) In other words my complaint is that while sticky windows are still a feature it requires more effort to get it to work which makes the feature less useful to me. Ideally I would like to see an option where the user can set the sensitivity for the "stickiness". Probably not via a user facing option in the Settings app but a global 'defaults' command line tweak would be nice.