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If the data is correct, Russian integrated air defense is better than what the US or west can muster at the moment (just read up a little on these systems and h
by cpursley 4y ago
If the data is correct, Russian integrated air defense is better than what the US or west can muster at the moment (just read up a little on these systems and how they integrate, Russians math good). They might suck at practically everything else, but not air defense. This is pretty widely acknowledged by western experts.
In fact, the old S-300s and Buks in Ukraine have been pretty effective and probably what spooks the Russians from using their air force in mass. Even those old systems are probably better than the Patriot for a lot of tasks. There's even been talks of sending more S-300s from Greece because they work and Ukraine knows how to operate them.
- LargoLasskhyfv 4y ago> There's even been talks of sending more S-300s from Greece because they work and Ukraine knows how to operate them. That would be unwise from a Greek perspective, because of Erdolfs ambitions and posture.
- CapricornNoble 4y agoI re-read my post and I can see that it is unclear. I meant the Russians lack trained PILOTS, not that they lack decent IADS. I agree that Russian/Soviet SAMs are overall pretty damn good, and deserve to be respected. I think Soviet doctrine of robust air defenses at all ranges/capability levels is proving prescient. The US in particular finally realized they need to play catch-up when it comes to SHORAD.