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I don't think there is any way to get a voting system to stop favoring people who vote in the current election over people who can't or don't, but the OP was ta

I don't think there is any way to get a voting system to stop favoring people who vote in the current election over people who can't or don't, but the OP was talking about something different: local governments favoring a slight minority of voters (landlords, some of whom are nonresidents and can't vote at all) over the larger number of tennants. I say "slight minority" because quite a few "landlords" are not the Victorian aristocrats our cultural legacies from Marx's time make them out to be but rather individual people who saved up and now let one property.

rcpt 4y ago
The "problem of faction" is theoretically solved via representative democracy. That was the idea in the Federalist Papers. It's not perfect but absolutely works better than direct democracy which has led to things like Prop 13 and it's endless extensions
sokoloff 4y ago
> any way to get a voting system to stop favoring people who vote in the current election over people who can't or don't Would that even be desirable? I feel that serving the desires of the voters is an essential (and desirable) property of democracy.
- wolverine876 4y ago
  We do want majority decision making, but Democracy, outside a theoretically extreme sense, is self-determination for all, not just the majority. That's the reason for rule of law, human rights, and limited government - to protect those without power. The people with power always have had self-determination.
  - sokoloff 4y ago
    Totally agreed; nevertheless, any voting system capable of expressing the desires of voters should result in an outcome that better meets their desires than the desires of non-voters. If it didn’t, why would anyone vote?
wolverine876 4y ago
> I don't think there is any way to get a voting system to stop favoring people who vote in the current election over people who can't or don't The purpose of human rights is to protect those people. > I say "slight minority" because quite a few "landlords" are ... individual people who saved up and now let one property. I agree, but that seems to be changing as these large investors buy up homes. That change is the point.

rcpt 4y ago

The "problem of faction" is theoretically solved via representative democracy. That was the idea in the Federalist Papers. It's not perfect but absolutely works better than direct democracy which has led to things like Prop 13 and it's endless extensions

sokoloff 4y ago

> any way to get a voting system to stop favoring people who vote in the current election over people who can't or don't Would that even be desirable? I feel that serving the desires of the voters is an essential (and desirable) property of democracy.

wolverine876 4y ago
We do want majority decision making, but Democracy, outside a theoretically extreme sense, is self-determination for all, not just the majority. That's the reason for rule of law, human rights, and limited government - to protect those without power. The people with power always have had self-determination.
- sokoloff 4y ago
  Totally agreed; nevertheless, any voting system capable of expressing the desires of voters should result in an outcome that better meets their desires than the desires of non-voters. If it didn’t, why would anyone vote?

wolverine876 4y ago

> I don't think there is any way to get a voting system to stop favoring people who vote in the current election over people who can't or don't The purpose of human rights is to protect those people. > I say "slight minority" because quite a few "landlords" are ... individual people who saved up and now let one property. I agree, but that seems to be changing as these large investors buy up homes. That change is the point.