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Don’t forget that while this is broadcast on NYE in Denmark and Sweden, in Norway it’s broadcast on Christmas which is something you should definitely bring up

by hnarn 4y ago

Don’t forget that while this is broadcast on NYE in Denmark and Sweden, in Norway it’s broadcast on Christmas which is something you should definitely bring up on a mixed Scandinavian family dinner. It’s also quite fun since there’s a joke relationship between Swedes and Norwegians calling each other stupid, so it’s quite fun to insinuate that Norwegians simply do not understand that the movie is set on NYE.

kristofferR 4y ago
Here in Norway every year on Christmas eve we also show Karl-Bertil Jonssons jul, a Swedish cartoon from 1975, where a underage postage worker steals packages from the rich and gives it to the poor. It's hard to imagine it would be well received in most other countries, especially as a tradition.
- Mizza 4y ago
  Don't forget Tre nøtter til Askepott, an old communist Czech movie that's somehow so critical to Norwegian heritage they had to send a Norwegian team to another country to make sure it was preserved and restored.
  - kristofferR 4y ago
    Yup, and a remake was released last year, featuring one of our main pop stars. It is apparently an annual Christmas movie in 14 other countries too though, unlike Karl-Bertils, which likely due to the political subject matter is only tradition in the Nordic countries.
  - flohofwoe 4y ago
    To be pedantic, it was an East German / Czechoslovakian coproduction (called "Drei Haselnüsse für Aschenbrödel" here), and it's still huge in Germany too (browse German TV channels at any time between Christmas and New Year, and it's very likely that the movie is running on at least one of them). The 'movie castle' is Schloss Moritzburg btw: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moritzburg_Castle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moritzburg_Castle
    - tut-urut-utut 4y ago
      Thanks for pointing out. I was confused by parent calling it „communist Czech movie“. It’s a fairy tale FFS, what does it have to do with communism? I never understood that obsession some people have with communism to see everything in the world through their iron curtain glasses.
      - jamiek88 4y ago
        They simply meant from that era, relax McCarthy.
      - tpm 4y ago
        It's important to understand that everything, even fairytales went through censorship / ideology conformity reviews, especially in those years ("normalisation", after the events of 1968/9). Many movies were either not produced at all or banned after production, others were heavily cut. Yes, even fairytales had to adhere to the communist ideology - for example the poor were usually shown as being morally superior, while the rich were decadent and mostly stupid, etc.
        ivanhoe 4y ago
        It's also important not to forget that West Germany wasn't immune to the censorship either, and bans, beside what realistically was a Soviet propaganda, also included some really good documentaries and artwork even by today's standards. https://film-history.org/approaches/not-approved-screening https://film-history.org/approaches/not-approved-screening
        tpm 4y ago
        Not sure why are you singling out West Germany here since the same applies to many other countries and tbh there is no particular issue with filtering content coming from totalitarian enemies interested in destroying you. The very important distinction here is that were the same policies as in Czechoslovakia applied in West Germany, people like Rainer Werner Fassbinder would not be able to create their movies. Not distribute, create.
  - cguess 4y ago
    My favorite part is how it's all dubbed into Norwegian by one guy doing all the voices, but he sorta starts giving up distinguishing the characters about half way through. Spending Christmas with my friend's Norwegian family was just getting one "tradition" after another explained to me for a week while I continuously got more and more confused.
    - tormeh 4y ago
      The guy doing the voices were improvising as he went along, as he was under the impression that it was a test. That this ended up being the track they used is, in itself, really odd. It's a funny track, though, so I guess that could be the reason?
- matt_holmes 4y ago
  Robin Hood is pretty well recieved in the broader west, and Ned Kelly is an Australian icon. I think the theme is pretty universal. For Christmas tradition the west has Scrooge which reveals the inherent disconnect between Christmas and wealth.
djxfade 4y ago
It's not shown on Christmas in Norway, rather on "little Christmas" (lille julaften), on the 23rd
Per_Bothner 4y ago
"the movie is set on NYE" Is it? I don't recall anything to suggest that. The title in German in "The 90th birthday".
- semi-extrinsic 4y ago
  It's a frequent misconception that it is set on NYE, since one of the guests (Mr. Pomeroy) says "Happy New Year Miss Sophie" in one of his toasts. But this is intended to be a joke, that the butler James is drunk enough to believe for a moment that it is NYE.
  - joakleaf 4y ago
    I thought he was just wishing Miss Sophie a happy new year, because it is the beginning of a new year for _her_ since this is her birthday.

by hnarn 4y ago

kristofferR 4y ago

Here in Norway every year on Christmas eve we also show Karl-Bertil Jonssons jul, a Swedish cartoon from 1975, where a underage postage worker steals packages from the rich and gives it to the poor. It's hard to imagine it would be well received in most other countries, especially as a tradition.

Mizza 4y ago
Don't forget Tre nøtter til Askepott, an old communist Czech movie that's somehow so critical to Norwegian heritage they had to send a Norwegian team to another country to make sure it was preserved and restored.
- kristofferR 4y ago
  Yup, and a remake was released last year, featuring one of our main pop stars. It is apparently an annual Christmas movie in 14 other countries too though, unlike Karl-Bertils, which likely due to the political subject matter is only tradition in the Nordic countries.
- flohofwoe 4y ago
  To be pedantic, it was an East German / Czechoslovakian coproduction (called "Drei Haselnüsse für Aschenbrödel" here), and it's still huge in Germany too (browse German TV channels at any time between Christmas and New Year, and it's very likely that the movie is running on at least one of them). The 'movie castle' is Schloss Moritzburg btw: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moritzburg_Castle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moritzburg_Castle
  - tut-urut-utut 4y ago
    Thanks for pointing out. I was confused by parent calling it „communist Czech movie“. It’s a fairy tale FFS, what does it have to do with communism? I never understood that obsession some people have with communism to see everything in the world through their iron curtain glasses.
    - jamiek88 4y ago
      They simply meant from that era, relax McCarthy.
    - tpm 4y ago
      It's important to understand that everything, even fairytales went through censorship / ideology conformity reviews, especially in those years ("normalisation", after the events of 1968/9). Many movies were either not produced at all or banned after production, others were heavily cut. Yes, even fairytales had to adhere to the communist ideology - for example the poor were usually shown as being morally superior, while the rich were decadent and mostly stupid, etc.
      - ivanhoe 4y ago
        It's also important not to forget that West Germany wasn't immune to the censorship either, and bans, beside what realistically was a Soviet propaganda, also included some really good documentaries and artwork even by today's standards. https://film-history.org/approaches/not-approved-screening https://film-history.org/approaches/not-approved-screening
        tpm 4y ago
        Not sure why are you singling out West Germany here since the same applies to many other countries and tbh there is no particular issue with filtering content coming from totalitarian enemies interested in destroying you. The very important distinction here is that were the same policies as in Czechoslovakia applied in West Germany, people like Rainer Werner Fassbinder would not be able to create their movies. Not distribute, create.
- cguess 4y ago
  My favorite part is how it's all dubbed into Norwegian by one guy doing all the voices, but he sorta starts giving up distinguishing the characters about half way through. Spending Christmas with my friend's Norwegian family was just getting one "tradition" after another explained to me for a week while I continuously got more and more confused.
  - tormeh 4y ago
    The guy doing the voices were improvising as he went along, as he was under the impression that it was a test. That this ended up being the track they used is, in itself, really odd. It's a funny track, though, so I guess that could be the reason?
matt_holmes 4y ago
Robin Hood is pretty well recieved in the broader west, and Ned Kelly is an Australian icon. I think the theme is pretty universal. For Christmas tradition the west has Scrooge which reveals the inherent disconnect between Christmas and wealth.

djxfade 4y ago

It's not shown on Christmas in Norway, rather on "little Christmas" (lille julaften), on the 23rd

Per_Bothner 4y ago

"the movie is set on NYE" Is it? I don't recall anything to suggest that. The title in German in "The 90th birthday".

semi-extrinsic 4y ago
It's a frequent misconception that it is set on NYE, since one of the guests (Mr. Pomeroy) says "Happy New Year Miss Sophie" in one of his toasts. But this is intended to be a joke, that the butler James is drunk enough to believe for a moment that it is NYE.
- joakleaf 4y ago
  I thought he was just wishing Miss Sophie a happy new year, because it is the beginning of a new year for _her_ since this is her birthday.