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As someone who worked in the systems division throughout the 90s, I've often found Raymond's history a bit odd. "Windows 95" was originally "Windows 93" and ex
by meanguy 15y ago
As someone who worked in the systems division throughout the 90s, I've often found Raymond's history a bit odd.
"Windows 95" was originally "Windows 93" and explicitly wasn't going to have a new user interface. They wanted to maximize revenue and not force people to re-train. It slipped and slipped and slipped...
The UI was actually prototyped and built not on Windows NT, but Cairo -- the thing that was supposed to come after Windows NT 3.1. It also slipped and slipped and slipped...
Paul Maritz (now of VMware) thought it was a great idea to have lots of teams, under competing vice presidents, build overlapping systems technology that needed to remain compatible at the legendary Windows level.
So. Stupid.
It basically took until Windows 7 to get the mess he created straightened out.
The key shuffle had the Cairo UI developers -- but not the designers -- move from under VP Jim Allchin to VP Brad Silverberg's group. Design was managed by Joe Belfiore, a very junior guy with no design or UI design experience. Nobody wanted the job (interface was not respected then) and he manned up and took it. He's now VP over Windows Phone.
But this engineering team was sort of -- uh -- let's just say Allchin didn't really fight to keep them. The types of guys who never quite realize width is (x2 - x1 PLUS 1) resulting in everything from blurry icons to blurry images/faxes for a decade. Who then refuse to fix the bugs because they "don't see it and it would add risk to our ship date."
After Windows 95, these devs went on to build the first IE. Yet again in a mad "must ship" panic, again led by people with no visual or design experience, again under Silverberg. So that's where all the box model madness and "things just don't line up" nonsense started.
- yuhong 15y ago>They wanted to maximize revenue and not force people to re-train. It slipped and slipped and slipped... And don't forget the 80386 was released in 1985. In fact MS had the early OS/2 2.0 SDK betas in around 1990 which continued until MS broke the JDA in mid-1991. And while Chicago was slipping, look up "OS/2 Microsoft Munchkins" for some of the unethical tactics MS used to attack OS/2 after the JDA was broken. And I hasn't even mentioned DR-DOS yet. In fact, MS screwed up the protected mode transition so badly I could write an entire article about this history, starting with when Intel announced the 80286 in year 1982 but MS ignored it and made the mistake of wasting years writing a real mode multitasking DOS. Then IBM refused to license it, which led to the JDA in 1985, which resulted in the 286 protected mode based OS/2 1.0 being released in 1988 which was what should have been finished by 1985 in the first place. Problem was that the 386 was introduced by Intel in 1985, and I could go on about Windows/386 and Windows 3.0 etc including the MS OS/2 2.0 SDK betas mentioned above...
- yuhong 15y ago>So that's where all the box model madness Do you mean the CSS box model madness?