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I don't think this should be on hacker news. It's just another political divisive article. I've no proof but it feels like there's more and more of this type o

I don't think this should be on hacker news. It's just another political divisive article. I've no proof but it feels like there's more and more of this type of content being posted here. Please stop.

dt3ft 4y ago
Agreed, as I can’t see what this has to do with “hacking”. It fits the “news” part, but I am not here for this type of news.
- theCrowing 4y ago
  You don't have to engage with things you are not "here for" that's up to you. It's not against the rules and as every "hacker" would agree with stop censoring other people.
  - bennysonething 4y ago
    I'm not so sure about this. If it fills with non hacker type news, what is the point of hacker news?
    - krapp 4y ago
      >If it fills with non hacker type news, what is the point of hacker news? The point of hacker news, stated in the guidelines: "Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity." Hacker News isn't, and has never been, a strictly technology oriented forum.
      - dt3ft 4y ago
        Got it. Time to start posting tiktok memes then.
- petodo 4y ago
  And what have posting articles about death of Viviane Westwood or Pele have to do with hacking? We should use same meter and not post any death unrelated to tech field. I have same opinion regarding Show HN Merry Christmas or Happy new year threads. edit: I just posted article about death of pope Benedict to prove my point, I'm sure one of the threads about his death will have tons of upvotes while it has nothing to do with technology and it's not even relevant since he was not pope anymore
- dang 4y ago
  HN is not just about hacking and not just about news. This is the first thing the site guidelines emphasize: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
theCrowing 4y ago
There is no rule against political content so instead of trying to censor an allowed topic because of your own believes you can just scroll past it.
- bennysonething 4y ago
  Hi, I'd say that's a pretty loose reading if the posting rules. Here's part of them: What to Submit On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity. Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.
  - theCrowing 4y ago
    [flagged]
    - bennysonething 4y ago
      That isn't exactly a well reasoned response. It doesn't add anything. It's just deflective personal attack.
  - nickthegreek 4y ago
    Flag it or don’t click it. Your appeal to have others not submit/not upvote content you don’t find interesting will fall on deaf ears.
- dang 4y ago
  It's a bit more complex than that. You're right that political content isn't excluded completely, but it also needs to be moderated a lot more, because otherwise the site would be taken over by political content, and also because politicized threads tend to break the site guidelines very quickly: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. If anyone wants to know how we approach this, https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=political%20overlap%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... leads to a bunch of past explanations, though you have to scroll through some boilerplate to find them. Just look for the longer, older posts.
dang 4y ago
The perception that HN is becoming too politicized goes back pretty much to the origins of HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869. There are sizeable fluctuations but I think the long-term state is stable. When too much repetition appears, users will increasingly flag it and moderators will increasingly downweight it.

dt3ft 4y ago

Agreed, as I can’t see what this has to do with “hacking”. It fits the “news” part, but I am not here for this type of news.

theCrowing 4y ago
You don't have to engage with things you are not "here for" that's up to you. It's not against the rules and as every "hacker" would agree with stop censoring other people.
- bennysonething 4y ago
  I'm not so sure about this. If it fills with non hacker type news, what is the point of hacker news?
  - krapp 4y ago
    >If it fills with non hacker type news, what is the point of hacker news? The point of hacker news, stated in the guidelines: "Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity." Hacker News isn't, and has never been, a strictly technology oriented forum.
    - dt3ft 4y ago
      Got it. Time to start posting tiktok memes then.
petodo 4y ago
And what have posting articles about death of Viviane Westwood or Pele have to do with hacking? We should use same meter and not post any death unrelated to tech field. I have same opinion regarding Show HN Merry Christmas or Happy new year threads. edit: I just posted article about death of pope Benedict to prove my point, I'm sure one of the threads about his death will have tons of upvotes while it has nothing to do with technology and it's not even relevant since he was not pope anymore
dang 4y ago
HN is not just about hacking and not just about news. This is the first thing the site guidelines emphasize: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

theCrowing 4y ago

There is no rule against political content so instead of trying to censor an allowed topic because of your own believes you can just scroll past it.

bennysonething 4y ago
Hi, I'd say that's a pretty loose reading if the posting rules. Here's part of them: What to Submit On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity. Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.
- theCrowing 4y ago
  [flagged]
  - bennysonething 4y ago
    That isn't exactly a well reasoned response. It doesn't add anything. It's just deflective personal attack.
- nickthegreek 4y ago
  Flag it or don’t click it. Your appeal to have others not submit/not upvote content you don’t find interesting will fall on deaf ears.
dang 4y ago
It's a bit more complex than that. You're right that political content isn't excluded completely, but it also needs to be moderated a lot more, because otherwise the site would be taken over by political content, and also because politicized threads tend to break the site guidelines very quickly: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. If anyone wants to know how we approach this, https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=political%20overlap%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... leads to a bunch of past explanations, though you have to scroll through some boilerplate to find them. Just look for the longer, older posts.

dang 4y ago

The perception that HN is becoming too politicized goes back pretty much to the origins of HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869. There are sizeable fluctuations but I think the long-term state is stable. When too much repetition appears, users will increasingly flag it and moderators will increasingly downweight it.