> It is an abolition movement, not because folks don't want consequences for their actions, but because the police state does not appear to have a stable, safe,

> It is an abolition movement, not because folks don't want consequences for their actions, but because the police state does not appear to have a stable, safe, and productive society as its core goal. Have you spoken to any minorities? As an Asian immigrant, I feel much safer with more police and will support more funding for police. As a democracy, we should listen to what people want (acting otherwise is fascist). https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/10/26/growing-share-of-americans-say-they-want-more-spending-on-police-in-their-area/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/10/26/growing-sha... > The share of adults who say spending on policing in their area should be increased now stands at 47%, up from 31% in June 2020. That includes 21% who say funding for their local police should be increased a lot, up from 11% who said this last summer. The police are not perfect but the hard data and critical thinking doesn't support the assertion that we have a police state. As someone who emigrated from an actual police state to the US, please travel to a real police state and then compare it to the system we have here. > I've been hard pressed to find anyone who honestly believes there should be zero consequences for violating laws or generally acting in an anti-social manner. Really? There are huge swathes of population that thinks that way.