> I've yet to see any actual, honest to god benefits for the end user. X11 reduces my laptop battery life to about 33%. Possibly because the refresh rate is 14

> I've yet to see any actual, honest to god benefits for the end user. X11 reduces my laptop battery life to about 33%. Possibly because the refresh rate is 144Hz, I don't know. Battery life is a substantial use-case. The perceived latency is also way lower, resulting in a more pleasurable experience (and that matters). > Trying to use a wayland window manager outside of gnome or kde leaves you reliant on a bunch of hackish utilities That's due to the philosophy of those compositors (compose something bigger with simple tools, i.e. the unix philosophy). Nothing in Wayland is preventing the implementation of a full shell (as Mutter and KWin prove). > Scaling and perf for xwayland apps (i.e. most apps) is pretty bad. The fractional scaling extension is pretty new, but was designed to rectify this. My big peeve with Wayland is Gnome and their f$&#(_ing refusal to implement decorations. And screen sharing is mostly broken on Ubuntu 22.4 (but that's probably because Ubuntu is utter shite, screensharing has been rock-solid on my distro-hopping personal PC).