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This (Scots != British) is not true, and it also is not universally true that all Scots would dislike being called British. True Scottish folk are Scottish firs

This (Scots != British) is not true, and it also is not universally true that all Scots would dislike being called British. True Scottish folk are Scottish first, British second, English never :) But many Scottish people are proud British citizens. I have a Scottish father who can confirm this.

WaxProlix 4y ago
Maybe sample bias then, most scots I've met resent the association, and are keen to dissolve it if possible. I think there's even a referendum upcoming to test the notion? Not sure on that bit.
- defrost 4y ago
  It's the Venn diagram from hell, you know, and perhaps something went amiss in translation. There's been a referendum (and may yet be another, not to mention numerous wars of years gone by) on the matter of being joined with the English as part of the United Kingdom - but that's not the same as digging a channel and casting adrift from the island of Great Britain, shared with other British folk such as the Welsh, the Cornish, and even (hack, spit) the English.
- davepdotorg 4y ago
  Are you, perhaps, conflating Britain and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland? There’s a potential upcoming referendum about the latter, not the former.
  - smcl 4y ago
    I think it's still a thing some people wouldn't like. Like if you had a super-hardline Unionist in Northern Ireland, and you insisted they were Irish (because they are from the island of Ireland) they might get a little upset. I made a comment elsewhere saying that people shouldn't get upset about getting called "British" if they consider themselves Scottish above all. But likewise I don't think it's smart or considerate to be all "well actually..." about something deeply personal and strongly felt like someone's national identity or gender or anything like that. That's sort of asking for conflict.

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This (Scots != British) is not true, and it also is not universally true that all Scots would dislike being called British. True Scottish folk are Scottish firs

by NiagaraThistle 4y ago

WaxProlix 4y ago
Maybe sample bias then, most scots I've met resent the association, and are keen to dissolve it if possible. I think there's even a referendum upcoming to test the notion? Not sure on that bit.
- defrost 4y ago
  It's the Venn diagram from hell, you know, and perhaps something went amiss in translation. There's been a referendum (and may yet be another, not to mention numerous wars of years gone by) on the matter of being joined with the English as part of the United Kingdom - but that's not the same as digging a channel and casting adrift from the island of Great Britain, shared with other British folk such as the Welsh, the Cornish, and even (hack, spit) the English.
- davepdotorg 4y ago
  Are you, perhaps, conflating Britain and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland? There’s a potential upcoming referendum about the latter, not the former.
  - smcl 4y ago
    I think it's still a thing some people wouldn't like. Like if you had a super-hardline Unionist in Northern Ireland, and you insisted they were Irish (because they are from the island of Ireland) they might get a little upset. I made a comment elsewhere saying that people shouldn't get upset about getting called "British" if they consider themselves Scottish above all. But likewise I don't think it's smart or considerate to be all "well actually..." about something deeply personal and strongly felt like someone's national identity or gender or anything like that. That's sort of asking for conflict.