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This tends to be a terrible idea, unless you really just want to nuke your Google account. (Googler, opinions are my own. I work on payments.)

by kyrra 4y ago

eyelidlessness 4y ago
This is consistent with a recent posting by a non-Googler.
foreverCarlos 4y ago
Over the past serval months I realized with certainty that I should never use my personal Gmail account for any other Google services. Gmail is Gmail only, for everything else create separate Google accounts you are not afraid to lose.
- jasonjayr 4y ago
  That's not good enough, they relate multiple accounts too, sometimes incorrectly. IIRC a company got their project booted from the play store, because one of the developers accounts got a black mark.
  - foreverCarlos 4y ago
    I don’t think Google will resort to matching my accounts by IP address or some fingerprinting technique. In any case, I am in the process of migrating off Gmail too, it just takes a lot of effort. But to your point, I should probably also download all my gmail data and archive it just in case.
    - kngspook 4y ago
      Google Takeout is actually reasonably robust. I create/download one of those fairly regularly.
owenmarshall 4y ago
Not a googler, but: this is absolutely right. Chargebacks are the mutually assured destruction of banking. There’s nothing wrong with firing a nuclear weapon if you truly feel it’s in your best interests; if you do, expect that your adversary will respond in kind and terminate all business with you now and in the future. Sometimes that’s the right move, sometimes it’s not, just go into it with eyes open.
- mike_d 4y ago
  If you have a billing agreement in place with a company, doing a chargeback is just nullifying a payment. The balance can still be sent to collections.
  - owenmarshall 4y ago
    Very possibly. If that happens, on the one hand, you’ll definitely escape algorithmic support - you’ll be in a world where people have to listen. On the other, they’ll only respond to certified mail. I doubt Google would send anyone to collections in these circumstances. But - Careful what you wish for!
    - PdbNQvsEte7o36D 4y ago
      LOL @ people in collections "have to listen"
dmacedo 4y ago
Since you might know - as I've seen the references on social media for this exact occurrence - is this referenced somewhere in T&Cs?
- kyrra 4y ago
  I'm in a layer that just gathers chargeback signals and passes them off to other teams. I have effectively no insight to how the signals are used for your payment profile and your Google account overall. I mainly just pay attention to people issuing their chargeback against Google, and then posting about it on the internet and the fallout they see. Also, if you see charges from Google on one of your cards but wasn't on your profile, I recommend following this guide: https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2851610?hl=en https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2851610?hl=en

This tends to be a terrible idea, unless you really just want to nuke your Google account. (Googler, opinions are my own. I work on payments.)

by kyrra 4y ago

This tends to be a terrible idea, unless you really just want to nuke your Google account. (Googler, opinions are my own. I work on payments.)

eyelidlessness 4y ago

This is consistent with a recent posting by a non-Googler.

foreverCarlos 4y ago

Over the past serval months I realized with certainty that I should never use my personal Gmail account for any other Google services. Gmail is Gmail only, for everything else create separate Google accounts you are not afraid to lose.

jasonjayr 4y ago
That's not good enough, they relate multiple accounts too, sometimes incorrectly. IIRC a company got their project booted from the play store, because one of the developers accounts got a black mark.
- foreverCarlos 4y ago
  I don’t think Google will resort to matching my accounts by IP address or some fingerprinting technique. In any case, I am in the process of migrating off Gmail too, it just takes a lot of effort. But to your point, I should probably also download all my gmail data and archive it just in case.
  - kngspook 4y ago
    Google Takeout is actually reasonably robust. I create/download one of those fairly regularly.

owenmarshall 4y ago

Not a googler, but: this is absolutely right. Chargebacks are the mutually assured destruction of banking. There’s nothing wrong with firing a nuclear weapon if you truly feel it’s in your best interests; if you do, expect that your adversary will respond in kind and terminate all business with you now and in the future. Sometimes that’s the right move, sometimes it’s not, just go into it with eyes open.

mike_d 4y ago
If you have a billing agreement in place with a company, doing a chargeback is just nullifying a payment. The balance can still be sent to collections.
- owenmarshall 4y ago
  Very possibly. If that happens, on the one hand, you’ll definitely escape algorithmic support - you’ll be in a world where people have to listen. On the other, they’ll only respond to certified mail. I doubt Google would send anyone to collections in these circumstances. But - Careful what you wish for!
  - PdbNQvsEte7o36D 4y ago
    LOL @ people in collections "have to listen"

dmacedo 4y ago

Since you might know - as I've seen the references on social media for this exact occurrence - is this referenced somewhere in T&Cs?

kyrra 4y ago
I'm in a layer that just gathers chargeback signals and passes them off to other teams. I have effectively no insight to how the signals are used for your payment profile and your Google account overall. I mainly just pay attention to people issuing their chargeback against Google, and then posting about it on the internet and the fallout they see. Also, if you see charges from Google on one of your cards but wasn't on your profile, I recommend following this guide: https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2851610?hl=en https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2851610?hl=en