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>> but damn if 20-somethings aren't emotionally fragile at a level the world has never seen before. And they're also all in therapy too and super in touch with

by s5300 4y ago

>> but damn if 20-somethings aren't emotionally fragile at a level the world has never seen before. And they're also all in therapy too and super in touch with their feelings and emotions which is supposed to help They’ve probably seen enough older people drink themselves to literal death, along with other types of deaths of despair, & make a conscious choice to not want to end up that way. Whether or not it will work out in the long term, nobody can tell for certain - but at least they’re trying.

yucky 4y ago
Fewer people are "drinking themselves to death" now than in previous generations, so that can't be it. Maybe the issue is that they literally have had it too good, and were too coddled, and now they can't handle regular life. If that's the case, what is the solution? Treat kids worse, make them face more adversity like previous generations did?
- s5300 4y ago
  I really hope you’re being sarcastic but I genuinely cannot tell so I guess I’ll reply. >>Fewer people are "drinking themselves to death" now than in previous generations, so that can't be it. Do you believe that we do not live in an age (with social media) in which it is much easier for anybody growing up to see exponentially a more examples of things I’ve mentioned? Just because things may be trending down, there is near infinitely more exposure. Kids used to see a town drunk they were told to stay away from & generally that they deserved their fate. Now they can go on any social media & find people who had full ride scholarships that had to drop out of a STEM PhD & now can’t even get their most basic of human needs met because of a long untreated disability or other medical issues. This may come as a surprise to you - but many younger people find that to be depressing as fuck & don’t see a point when they can easily meet the same fate. Just personal data: everybody I know who was treated as you suggest at the end now no longer speaks with or interacts their parents, whom regularly post things on Facebook like “I don’t know why none of my kids talk to me I was so good to them you all know I was waaah” I personally find this to be funny, but it’s probably not best for society at large. We should probably attempt to fix the underlying issue - which all too often seems to be, don’t treat your kids like shit - especially in the 21st century where it’s not hard to see there’s greener pastures to be experienced, even when estranged from family.
  - yucky 4y ago
    Your entire post goes against the data which shows this generation was coddled (probably too much) and that they statistically have it better than any generation in the history of mankind. If anything, it appears the problem is that they have had it too easy. They are in need of nothing, which leaves them to create their own problems, in need of solving of course.
    - s5300 4y ago
      The people with nearly no pathway to home ownership, a bachelors degree required for the most basic of jobs, & the least social mobility in over a century are “in need of nothing” You clearly aren’t to be reasoned with. I also think you would benefit from therapy, but I digress.
      - yucky 4y ago
        No pathway to homeownership? Only if you insist on buying your dream home in your dream city where everyone of your peers also wants to live. Meanwhile right now I can link you to search results on Zillow showing thousands of starter homes (yes, still very much a thing) for under $100k in most metropolitan areas. Is the problem that much of this generation thinks they're too good to live in a $100k house in a suburb of KC, St Louis, Cleveland, Detroit, Milwaukee, Little Rock, Dallas, etc. etc.? Or do they honestly believe this nonsense that there are literally no jobs outside of SF/Boston/NYC/LA/Seattle? Because what it appears to be from all the evidence is just a lazy excuse to not try.
- watwut 4y ago
  Yes, and a lot of those previous deaths was self medication due to mental health problems. And the same goes for minor violent crimes committed by young people. And teenage pregnancies. Many of those were result of kids having issues and acting out. They are down now. Also, my generation had it easier then current one. Economy was better, education cheaper, housing cheaper.
- CodexArcana 4y ago
  Homie, the things your parents did to you was abuse. The things you did to your kids, because your parents did them, was abuse. Your parents were probably self medicating with alcohol. What ever fault you have with the younger generation is on you and your generations behaviors. You need to get out and actually listen to some people younger than you. It's clear you've never had an emotionally present conversation with a young person.
  - yucky 4y ago
    This sounds like something a high school kid would write. I interact with them daily, they literally "can't even". The entire generation is emotionally crippled, depressed, self-medicating (and diagnosing), and honestly appears incapable of functioning in society as an adult. Have you stopped to consider how weird it is that you find that entire generation completely without fault? The first faultless generation? How convenient...

by s5300 4y ago

yucky 4y ago

Fewer people are "drinking themselves to death" now than in previous generations, so that can't be it. Maybe the issue is that they literally have had it too good, and were too coddled, and now they can't handle regular life. If that's the case, what is the solution? Treat kids worse, make them face more adversity like previous generations did?

s5300 4y ago
I really hope you’re being sarcastic but I genuinely cannot tell so I guess I’ll reply. >>Fewer people are "drinking themselves to death" now than in previous generations, so that can't be it. Do you believe that we do not live in an age (with social media) in which it is much easier for anybody growing up to see exponentially a more examples of things I’ve mentioned? Just because things may be trending down, there is near infinitely more exposure. Kids used to see a town drunk they were told to stay away from & generally that they deserved their fate. Now they can go on any social media & find people who had full ride scholarships that had to drop out of a STEM PhD & now can’t even get their most basic of human needs met because of a long untreated disability or other medical issues. This may come as a surprise to you - but many younger people find that to be depressing as fuck & don’t see a point when they can easily meet the same fate. Just personal data: everybody I know who was treated as you suggest at the end now no longer speaks with or interacts their parents, whom regularly post things on Facebook like “I don’t know why none of my kids talk to me I was so good to them you all know I was waaah” I personally find this to be funny, but it’s probably not best for society at large. We should probably attempt to fix the underlying issue - which all too often seems to be, don’t treat your kids like shit - especially in the 21st century where it’s not hard to see there’s greener pastures to be experienced, even when estranged from family.
- yucky 4y ago
  Your entire post goes against the data which shows this generation was coddled (probably too much) and that they statistically have it better than any generation in the history of mankind. If anything, it appears the problem is that they have had it too easy. They are in need of nothing, which leaves them to create their own problems, in need of solving of course.
  - s5300 4y ago
    The people with nearly no pathway to home ownership, a bachelors degree required for the most basic of jobs, & the least social mobility in over a century are “in need of nothing” You clearly aren’t to be reasoned with. I also think you would benefit from therapy, but I digress.
    - yucky 4y ago
      No pathway to homeownership? Only if you insist on buying your dream home in your dream city where everyone of your peers also wants to live. Meanwhile right now I can link you to search results on Zillow showing thousands of starter homes (yes, still very much a thing) for under $100k in most metropolitan areas. Is the problem that much of this generation thinks they're too good to live in a $100k house in a suburb of KC, St Louis, Cleveland, Detroit, Milwaukee, Little Rock, Dallas, etc. etc.? Or do they honestly believe this nonsense that there are literally no jobs outside of SF/Boston/NYC/LA/Seattle? Because what it appears to be from all the evidence is just a lazy excuse to not try.
watwut 4y ago
Yes, and a lot of those previous deaths was self medication due to mental health problems. And the same goes for minor violent crimes committed by young people. And teenage pregnancies. Many of those were result of kids having issues and acting out. They are down now. Also, my generation had it easier then current one. Economy was better, education cheaper, housing cheaper.
CodexArcana 4y ago
Homie, the things your parents did to you was abuse. The things you did to your kids, because your parents did them, was abuse. Your parents were probably self medicating with alcohol. What ever fault you have with the younger generation is on you and your generations behaviors. You need to get out and actually listen to some people younger than you. It's clear you've never had an emotionally present conversation with a young person.
- yucky 4y ago
  This sounds like something a high school kid would write. I interact with them daily, they literally "can't even". The entire generation is emotionally crippled, depressed, self-medicating (and diagnosing), and honestly appears incapable of functioning in society as an adult. Have you stopped to consider how weird it is that you find that entire generation completely without fault? The first faultless generation? How convenient...