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> Trying to use a wayland window manager outside of gnome or kde leaves you reliant on a bunch of hackish utilities (redshift, taskbar, screen recording / shari

> Trying to use a wayland window manager outside of gnome or kde leaves you reliant on a bunch of hackish utilities (redshift, taskbar, screen recording / sharing, etc) which are available on AUR and basically no where else. Because redshift is designed for X11. If you want redshift for Wayland then you use gammastep. Taskbar options if you don't want to use whatever is part of a common window manager would be Waybar, swaybar, and i3statusrs. Screen recording works well with OBS. All this works without relying on the AUR BTW.

guerrilla 4y ago
> gammastep Nope, wrong, this doesn't work for KDE or GNOME or most of the big compositors for that matter. There really is no standard way as I mentioned in another comment. Anyway, from the gammastep README: > Why doesn't this work with Wayland compositors like Mutter, KWin, Mir, and Enlightenment? > This program supports the wlroots protocol for gamma adjustments, but several Wayland compositors do not support this protocol. GNOME and KDE have their own built-in mechanisms for adjusting color temperature on Wayland. For GNOME, I might as well say here for reference, using gsettings to adjust the keys in org.gnome.desktop.a11y.magnifier seems to work for now, but I'm sure they'll find a reason to remove that soon enough.
- saghm 4y ago
  The original comment was that redshift was needed outside of Gnome or KDE, so I think the comment you're responding to is addressing that. It still seems like a legitimate gripe that it doesn't work for many other compositors, but I think the inclusion of KDE/Gnome here is a bit of an accidental goal post shift for the parent comment.
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  - guerrilla 4y ago
    Mmmm okay I see what you mean.
  - jcelerier 4y ago
    > The original comment was that redshift was needed outside of Gnome or KDE, but even if you use gnome or kde you can still use redshift in X11 because these things are independent. e.g. maybe you have a redshift config file associated with a screen / location, it shouldn't matter which DE you are using for it.
  - wing-_-nuts 4y ago
    Yeah, I didn't bother with the proper names for these. I needed something to make my display color warmer, control brightness, a proper lock / login screen, sanely configurable task bar. These exist, but while they are first class citizens on AUR (which is really just building from source), they are mostly absent from the ubuntu repos. You wind up chasing down and compiling nine different dependencies for a fecking backlighting program before realizing you just don't care anymore and you happily switch back to i3wm on xorg and move on with your life.

guerrilla 4y ago

> gammastep Nope, wrong, this doesn't work for KDE or GNOME or most of the big compositors for that matter. There really is no standard way as I mentioned in another comment. Anyway, from the gammastep README: > Why doesn't this work with Wayland compositors like Mutter, KWin, Mir, and Enlightenment? > This program supports the wlroots protocol for gamma adjustments, but several Wayland compositors do not support this protocol. GNOME and KDE have their own built-in mechanisms for adjusting color temperature on Wayland. For GNOME, I might as well say here for reference, using gsettings to adjust the keys in org.gnome.desktop.a11y.magnifier seems to work for now, but I'm sure they'll find a reason to remove that soon enough.

saghm 4y ago
The original comment was that redshift was needed outside of Gnome or KDE, so I think the comment you're responding to is addressing that. It still seems like a legitimate gripe that it doesn't work for many other compositors, but I think the inclusion of KDE/Gnome here is a bit of an accidental goal post shift for the parent comment.
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- guerrilla 4y ago
  Mmmm okay I see what you mean.
- jcelerier 4y ago
  > The original comment was that redshift was needed outside of Gnome or KDE, but even if you use gnome or kde you can still use redshift in X11 because these things are independent. e.g. maybe you have a redshift config file associated with a screen / location, it shouldn't matter which DE you are using for it.
- wing-_-nuts 4y ago
  Yeah, I didn't bother with the proper names for these. I needed something to make my display color warmer, control brightness, a proper lock / login screen, sanely configurable task bar. These exist, but while they are first class citizens on AUR (which is really just building from source), they are mostly absent from the ubuntu repos. You wind up chasing down and compiling nine different dependencies for a fecking backlighting program before realizing you just don't care anymore and you happily switch back to i3wm on xorg and move on with your life.