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Is there a faster MVP stack than this plus next js and maybe something like supabase for the db?

by moneywoes 4y ago

moneywoes 4y ago
Would use the next js for the api as well
FractalHQ 4y ago
SvelteKit gives tangible speed and DX advantages over React that can be measured in less LOC.
- satvikpendem 4y ago
  Then you'd have to use Svelte which I dislike over React, not the least of which is templating. After having used Vue and Angular before switching to React, you couldn't pay me to go back to logic in an HTML DSL. I can't look at v-for or ngIf again.
  - FractalHQ 4y ago
    As someone who dislikes Vue and Angular but loves Solid and Svelte, I understand your reservations but I have to ask- have you ever built something non-trivial with Svelte? The list of DX improvements using TS in a framework like Svelte that gets out of your way without a labyrinth of gotchas and framework specific footguns and api patterns born through a decade of tech debt is nothing to scoff at.
    - satvikpendem 4y ago
      This year I ported a quite complex web app I had in React and TypeScript, into Vue, Angular, Solid, and Svelte, just to see if I were missing anything given the new changes in the frontend ecosystem. I did not find that TypeScript helped more in Svelte than in React, particularly.
nodoodles 4y ago
Letting Supabase handle auth, and not adding this as a dependency? (no dig at authjs, haven't used it, looks great) https://supabase.com/docs/guides/auth/overview https://supabase.com/docs/guides/auth/overview (and +1 to iteration speed and brevity using SvelteKit)
simantel 4y ago
This might be fast for JS, but Rails is the GOAT for MVPs.
loh 4y ago
Give Molecule.dev a look. (I'm the creator. Lots of open source improvements in the future, but for now, it is what it is.)
jokethrowaway 4y ago
I've been using https://github.com/OrJDev/create-jd-app https://github.com/OrJDev/create-jd-app which is based on solid and it's pretty great. Super fast out of the box, but I also upgraded vite to 4 with a few overrides to get swc. Solid Auth is still a bit immature (I ended up writing my own Auth stack around prisma, trpc and jwt), haven't tried Next Auth

Is there a faster MVP stack than this plus next js and maybe something like supabase for the db?

moneywoes 4y ago

Would use the next js for the api as well

FractalHQ 4y ago

SvelteKit gives tangible speed and DX advantages over React that can be measured in less LOC.

satvikpendem 4y ago
Then you'd have to use Svelte which I dislike over React, not the least of which is templating. After having used Vue and Angular before switching to React, you couldn't pay me to go back to logic in an HTML DSL. I can't look at v-for or ngIf again.
- FractalHQ 4y ago
  As someone who dislikes Vue and Angular but loves Solid and Svelte, I understand your reservations but I have to ask- have you ever built something non-trivial with Svelte? The list of DX improvements using TS in a framework like Svelte that gets out of your way without a labyrinth of gotchas and framework specific footguns and api patterns born through a decade of tech debt is nothing to scoff at.
  - satvikpendem 4y ago
    This year I ported a quite complex web app I had in React and TypeScript, into Vue, Angular, Solid, and Svelte, just to see if I were missing anything given the new changes in the frontend ecosystem. I did not find that TypeScript helped more in Svelte than in React, particularly.

nodoodles 4y ago

Letting Supabase handle auth, and not adding this as a dependency? (no dig at authjs, haven't used it, looks great) https://supabase.com/docs/guides/auth/overview https://supabase.com/docs/guides/auth/overview (and +1 to iteration speed and brevity using SvelteKit)

simantel 4y ago

This might be fast for JS, but Rails is the GOAT for MVPs.

loh 4y ago

Give Molecule.dev a look. (I'm the creator. Lots of open source improvements in the future, but for now, it is what it is.)

jokethrowaway 4y ago

I've been using https://github.com/OrJDev/create-jd-app https://github.com/OrJDev/create-jd-app which is based on solid and it's pretty great. Super fast out of the box, but I also upgraded vite to 4 with a few overrides to get swc. Solid Auth is still a bit immature (I ended up writing my own Auth stack around prisma, trpc and jwt), haven't tried Next Auth