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By your word and the definition, saying true things is now lying. I don't agree with such a definition. And it's not just about what a word means either. Calli
by drivebycomment 4y ago
By your word and the definition, saying true things is now lying. I don't agree with such a definition. And it's not just about what a word means either. Calling someone lying is essentially declaring you won't engage with the other side, and by your definition, you are not interested in engaging vast majority of anything, and making the meaning of lying nearly useless. People advocating and focusing on the argument they believe in are not lying by omitting to mention the other arguments.
And, more importantly, this kind of rhetoric or definition doesn't help anything, even if there is a clear definition which there isn't one. It's the cynicism, without any use.
- AnimalMuppet 4y agoSaying true things with intent to mislead is lying, yes. Not just "now" - it always has been.
- brigandish 4y agoIt depends on what the subject is. Keeping it as simple as possible, we take Fact A. If we're talking about a specific fact (in this case, Fact A) then to state Fact A and assert its validity/soundness/truth etc is not to lie. If the subject is not Fact A, but Fact A is is given to support a certain other position/fact with regards to the subject and you know that to say Fact A without Fact B (C, D…) will give a misleading impression about the subject then you are, indeed, lying.