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Nobody has tried the Lenovo Z13? I have one and it's way better than the ThinkPad I had before. It does get warm, and you can't play games on it, but it feels m

Nobody has tried the Lenovo Z13? I have one and it's way better than the ThinkPad I had before. It does get warm, and you can't play games on it, but it feels more premium and has a stronger CPU.

chem83 4y ago
+1 and flawless out of box Linux support.
noisy_boy 4y ago
Port selection seems abysmal on it - two TB(?)/USB-C ports and an audio jack.
- fwsgonzo 4y ago
  Yeah, I think it's meant to connect to a hub. Both sides charge which is something I really like. You are right though, very few ports.
lultimouomo 4y ago
I have it and it's definitely a powerful and solid laptop with a great screen. But out-of-the-box linux support was not great at all. I am usually a debian user, but since it shipped with Ubuntu I thought I'd give it a try (there were other distro choices when ordering the laptop, but Ubuntu was the only debian-based one). The laptop came a couple of months ago with Ubuntu 20.04. I upgraded to Ubuntu 22.04, which was tricky enough as the system updater would tell me that I had incompatible packages installed (I had not added anything); it took a long while but I finally managed to unblock it. After the upgrade, the laptop started getting completely unusable after suspend - a deadlock in the ath11k kernel module. Upgrading to 22.10 did not help, so for two months I just disabled suspend altogether, turning the computer off any time I had to close it. Fortunately last week a new kernel came in the proposed-updates channel which backports the fix for the deadlock, so now that works. I still have some occasional kernel deadlock, and I have yet to figure out why, but it is kind of bearable right now. The speaker volume is really, really low, though I am not sure if this is a problem with the linux drivers, or it is just a hardware limitation. I am completely confident that all the remaining annoyances will get solved in a couple of months; probably they would be already if I had wiped the laptop clean as it arrived and installed debian unstable as I usually do. I am satisfied with my purchase as it ticks all the boxes I had (particularly the combination of size, screen, cpu and memory was not matched by almost anything else). But to be a premium (in quality and price) laptop that ships with an "officially supported" linux distribution, it sure had way more issues than I expected.
- fwsgonzo 4y ago
  That's very strange and unfortunate. I haven't rebooted it in a while and I use it every day. So far it's just been a really good laptop. Maybe you can send it back and get a new one?
- chem83 4y ago
  Just to confirm: are we talking about the same laptop? Can’t seem to find on Lenovo’s website that any distro is officially supported (although I may be missing something obvious). Someone who has been interacting with their support a lot is reporting good compatibility with some workarounds: http://null.rip/2022/09/linux-on-the-thinkpad-z13-all-amd-almost-there http://null.rip/2022/09/linux-on-the-thinkpad-z13-all-amd-al...
  - lultimouomo 4y ago
    When you order a Thinkpad Z13 from Lenovo you get the option to get it with Ubuntu preinstalled. To me that's "officially supported".
    - chem83 4y ago
      Is this in the US store or elsewhere? I swear I can’t find that option. :( Thanks.

Nobody has tried the Lenovo Z13? I have one and it's way better than the ThinkPad I had before. It does get warm, and you can't play games on it, but it feels more premium and has a stronger CPU.

chem83 4y ago

+1 and flawless out of box Linux support.

noisy_boy 4y ago

Port selection seems abysmal on it - two TB(?)/USB-C ports and an audio jack.

fwsgonzo 4y ago
Yeah, I think it's meant to connect to a hub. Both sides charge which is something I really like. You are right though, very few ports.

lultimouomo 4y ago

I have it and it's definitely a powerful and solid laptop with a great screen. But out-of-the-box linux support was not great at all. I am usually a debian user, but since it shipped with Ubuntu I thought I'd give it a try (there were other distro choices when ordering the laptop, but Ubuntu was the only debian-based one). The laptop came a couple of months ago with Ubuntu 20.04. I upgraded to Ubuntu 22.04, which was tricky enough as the system updater would tell me that I had incompatible packages installed (I had not added anything); it took a long while but I finally managed to unblock it. After the upgrade, the laptop started getting completely unusable after suspend - a deadlock in the ath11k kernel module. Upgrading to 22.10 did not help, so for two months I just disabled suspend altogether, turning the computer off any time I had to close it. Fortunately last week a new kernel came in the proposed-updates channel which backports the fix for the deadlock, so now that works. I still have some occasional kernel deadlock, and I have yet to figure out why, but it is kind of bearable right now. The speaker volume is really, really low, though I am not sure if this is a problem with the linux drivers, or it is just a hardware limitation. I am completely confident that all the remaining annoyances will get solved in a couple of months; probably they would be already if I had wiped the laptop clean as it arrived and installed debian unstable as I usually do. I am satisfied with my purchase as it ticks all the boxes I had (particularly the combination of size, screen, cpu and memory was not matched by almost anything else). But to be a premium (in quality and price) laptop that ships with an "officially supported" linux distribution, it sure had way more issues than I expected.

fwsgonzo 4y ago
That's very strange and unfortunate. I haven't rebooted it in a while and I use it every day. So far it's just been a really good laptop. Maybe you can send it back and get a new one?
chem83 4y ago
Just to confirm: are we talking about the same laptop? Can’t seem to find on Lenovo’s website that any distro is officially supported (although I may be missing something obvious). Someone who has been interacting with their support a lot is reporting good compatibility with some workarounds: http://null.rip/2022/09/linux-on-the-thinkpad-z13-all-amd-almost-there http://null.rip/2022/09/linux-on-the-thinkpad-z13-all-amd-al...
- lultimouomo 4y ago
  When you order a Thinkpad Z13 from Lenovo you get the option to get it with Ubuntu preinstalled. To me that's "officially supported".
  - chem83 4y ago
    Is this in the US store or elsewhere? I swear I can’t find that option. :( Thanks.