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I kinda view these as entirely different companies and IIRC Lenovo was even thinking about splitting their computer divisions into companies with different name

I kinda view these as entirely different companies and IIRC Lenovo was even thinking about splitting their computer divisions into companies with different names. That is one thing apple really does well for their brand: only sell premium stuff under one brand (Beats not withstanding). In contrast Lenovo has a mixed reputation: Thinkstuff never had any of the issues you mentioned, but is still tarnished. Similarly, Dell has great high end stuff, but awful low-end and Samsung just has everything (and washing machines and...)

autoexec 4y ago
> Thinkstuff never had any of the issues you mentioned What is "thinkstuff" in this context?
- anuvrat1 4y ago
  thinkPad, thinkbook, thinkstation, thinkcenter etc. Basically Lenovo's business oriented products
  - autoexec 4y ago
    Thinkpads were absolutely impacted by some of them Lenovo's SHAREit software was preloaded on ThinkPad and IdeaPad notebooks. That was one of the hardcoded password issues I mentioned (along with other problems) for more info see: https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=2016-1489 https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=2016-1489 https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=2016-1492 https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=2016-1492 https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=2016-1491 https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=2016-1491 The fingerprint scanner issue also impacted thinkpads, thinkstation and thinkcentre devices: https://www.theregister.com/2018/01/26/lenovo_thinkpad_fingerprint_manager_vulnerability/ https://www.theregister.com/2018/01/26/lenovo_thinkpad_finge...
    - mcbits 4y ago
      My ThinkPad T61p suffered a different problem: It was bricked 1 month out of warranty due to the GPU, which was recalled by Nvidia but Lenovo refused to honor the recall. Instead they wanted to sell me an $800 replacement board with the same faulty GPU. There was a long thread on their support forums with hundreds of people complaining about the same thing. It has since disappeared. I've never given Lenovo another dollar.
      - autoexec 4y ago
        > It was bricked 1 month out of warranty due to the GPU, which was recalled by Nvidia but Lenovo refused to honor the recall. Did they actually issue a recall on those chips? Someone should update the wiki which still says: ...neither nVidia nor Lenovo ever admitted publicly that the chips were defective. The issue was handled as one of quality control with no "official" revisions issued, and no recalls. (https://thinkpads.com/t61/ https://thinkpads.com/t61/)
        mcbits 4y ago
        Hmm, I'm going by memory but I distinctly remember reading they were recalled and that Dell among others were issuing replacements for their systems with the faulty chips. Perhaps it's true that it wasn't officially recalled. Also your link mentions Lenovo did briefly offer repairs in 2010-2011, so I guess I could have taken part, but that was about 2 years after I ejected the company from my world.

autoexec 4y ago

> Thinkstuff never had any of the issues you mentioned What is "thinkstuff" in this context?

anuvrat1 4y ago
thinkPad, thinkbook, thinkstation, thinkcenter etc. Basically Lenovo's business oriented products
- autoexec 4y ago
  Thinkpads were absolutely impacted by some of them Lenovo's SHAREit software was preloaded on ThinkPad and IdeaPad notebooks. That was one of the hardcoded password issues I mentioned (along with other problems) for more info see: https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=2016-1489 https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=2016-1489 https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=2016-1492 https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=2016-1492 https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=2016-1491 https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=2016-1491 The fingerprint scanner issue also impacted thinkpads, thinkstation and thinkcentre devices: https://www.theregister.com/2018/01/26/lenovo_thinkpad_fingerprint_manager_vulnerability/ https://www.theregister.com/2018/01/26/lenovo_thinkpad_finge...
  - mcbits 4y ago
    My ThinkPad T61p suffered a different problem: It was bricked 1 month out of warranty due to the GPU, which was recalled by Nvidia but Lenovo refused to honor the recall. Instead they wanted to sell me an $800 replacement board with the same faulty GPU. There was a long thread on their support forums with hundreds of people complaining about the same thing. It has since disappeared. I've never given Lenovo another dollar.
    - autoexec 4y ago
      > It was bricked 1 month out of warranty due to the GPU, which was recalled by Nvidia but Lenovo refused to honor the recall. Did they actually issue a recall on those chips? Someone should update the wiki which still says: ...neither nVidia nor Lenovo ever admitted publicly that the chips were defective. The issue was handled as one of quality control with no "official" revisions issued, and no recalls. (https://thinkpads.com/t61/ https://thinkpads.com/t61/)
      - mcbits 4y ago
        Hmm, I'm going by memory but I distinctly remember reading they were recalled and that Dell among others were issuing replacements for their systems with the faulty chips. Perhaps it's true that it wasn't officially recalled. Also your link mentions Lenovo did briefly offer repairs in 2010-2011, so I guess I could have taken part, but that was about 2 years after I ejected the company from my world.