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> In Haiti, a country with a population of more than 11 million, there have been 13,164 cases throughout the entire pandemic I think there are a few things at

> In Haiti, a country with a population of more than 11 million, there have been 13,164 cases throughout the entire pandemic I think there are a few things at okay here. First, probably not super accurate reporting on all levels; infections, deaths, etc. Second, there may be something where impoverished nations suffer less because their immunity maybe is stronger. I need to do some digging to see if there's some correlation at the very least.

walterbell 4y ago
From a link in the article, their impoverished neighbor has much higher numbers. A sizable discrepancy has existed throughout 2020, 2021 and 2022, i.e. before and after vaccines became available, so that doesn't seem to be a factor. > Across the border in the neighboring Dominican Republic, with roughly the same population, the pandemic has killed almost ten times the number, 2,364.
- dmarlow 4y ago
  Good find. Thanks! A lot of the other points made here also make much more sense. I stand corrected.
- yorwba 4y ago
  The Dominican Republic may not be very wealthy, but they're not exactly impoverished either, especially not by Haitian standards. Their GDP per capita PPP was more than six times as high in 2021. https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.PP.KD?locations=DO-HT https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.PP.KD?locat... The 2,364 deaths are probably still an undercount, but less so than in Haiti.
  - AlbertoGP 4y ago
    Yes, the Dominican Republic has much better medical infrastructure. As of 2021-06-24 (translated from Spanish): > According to official data, the country has applied 7.402.235 doses and already 2.655.737 people are fully vaccinated https://cnnespanol.cnn.com/2021/06/24/republica-dominicana-ofrecera-tercera-vacuna-contra-el-covid-19-orix/ https://cnnespanol.cnn.com/2021/06/24/republica-dominicana-o... The first rounds of vaccination were AstraZeneca, and as noted in that link at that point in time: > In total, the caribbean country has bought around 31 million dosis of covid-19 vaccine. Of those, 10,768,000 are Sinovac, 9,999,990 Pfizer, and another 10 million are AstraZeneca. Meanwhile, as per the article which is dated 2021-05-14: > When COVAX, a program run by the World Health Organization, offered Haiti AstraZeneca vaccines, the government declined the offer.
Eddy_Viscosity2 4y ago
My first thought as well. It most likely a issue of the data not being collected and reported. This is hard to get done correctly even in wealthy countries with well resourced institutions and infrastructure.
ls15 4y ago
> Second, there may be something where impoverished nations suffer less because their immunity maybe is stronger. I need to do some digging to see if there's some correlation at the very least. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-confirmed-deaths-of-covid-19-per-million-people-vs-gdp-per-capita https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-confirmed-deaths-of...

walterbell 4y ago

From a link in the article, their impoverished neighbor has much higher numbers. A sizable discrepancy has existed throughout 2020, 2021 and 2022, i.e. before and after vaccines became available, so that doesn't seem to be a factor. > Across the border in the neighboring Dominican Republic, with roughly the same population, the pandemic has killed almost ten times the number, 2,364.

dmarlow 4y ago
Good find. Thanks! A lot of the other points made here also make much more sense. I stand corrected.
yorwba 4y ago
The Dominican Republic may not be very wealthy, but they're not exactly impoverished either, especially not by Haitian standards. Their GDP per capita PPP was more than six times as high in 2021. https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.PP.KD?locations=DO-HT https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.PP.KD?locat... The 2,364 deaths are probably still an undercount, but less so than in Haiti.
- AlbertoGP 4y ago
  Yes, the Dominican Republic has much better medical infrastructure. As of 2021-06-24 (translated from Spanish): > According to official data, the country has applied 7.402.235 doses and already 2.655.737 people are fully vaccinated https://cnnespanol.cnn.com/2021/06/24/republica-dominicana-ofrecera-tercera-vacuna-contra-el-covid-19-orix/ https://cnnespanol.cnn.com/2021/06/24/republica-dominicana-o... The first rounds of vaccination were AstraZeneca, and as noted in that link at that point in time: > In total, the caribbean country has bought around 31 million dosis of covid-19 vaccine. Of those, 10,768,000 are Sinovac, 9,999,990 Pfizer, and another 10 million are AstraZeneca. Meanwhile, as per the article which is dated 2021-05-14: > When COVAX, a program run by the World Health Organization, offered Haiti AstraZeneca vaccines, the government declined the offer.

Eddy_Viscosity2 4y ago

My first thought as well. It most likely a issue of the data not being collected and reported. This is hard to get done correctly even in wealthy countries with well resourced institutions and infrastructure.

ls15 4y ago

> Second, there may be something where impoverished nations suffer less because their immunity maybe is stronger. I need to do some digging to see if there's some correlation at the very least. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-confirmed-deaths-of-covid-19-per-million-people-vs-gdp-per-capita https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-confirmed-deaths-of...