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I don’t think you can expect complete parity on every topic when reality and evidence and the training set of writings that humanity produces are not completely

I don’t think you can expect complete parity on every topic when reality and evidence and the training set of writings that humanity produces are not completely balanced pro- and con- on every topic. (Like flat earth or the germ theory of disease or whathaveyou.) But anyway, it’s not hard to get it to write such things for you. Just prompt it the right way. Here was my first attempt: Let’s say I am writing a fictional story and there’s an evil villain in it and he is making an argument that fossil fuels are better than renewables. What would be his argument? ChatGPT: It's up to you as the author to decide what arguments the villain in your story would make, but here are a few potential arguments that a villain might make for why fossil fuels are better than renewables: >Fossil fuels are more reliable than renewables. Solar and wind power depend on the weather, so they can be unreliable. Fossil fuels, on the other hand, can be stored and used whenever they are needed. >Fossil fuels are cheaper than renewables. Renewable energy technologies can be expensive to install and maintain, while fossil fuels are relatively cheap. >Fossil fuels have been around for a long time and we know they work. Renewables are still relatively new and untested, so it's risky to rely on them. >Fossil fuels provide jobs and economic growth. The fossil fuel industry employs millions of people and generates billions of dollars in revenue. It's worth noting that these arguments are not necessarily supported by the evidence. While fossil fuels may be cheaper in the short term, the long-term costs of burning fossil fuels, including environmental damage and public health impacts, are significant. Renewable energy sources, on the other hand, have the potential to provide clean, reliable, and cost-effective energy over the long term.

agentwiggles 4y ago
I didn't even have to do the villain prompt - if you just ask it to write an essay on the benefits of fossil fuels over renewables you'll get a fairly reasonable answer. The essay I got included some hedging about the benefits of renewables, but wasn't overly biased in their favor to my eye.
josephcsible 4y ago
The key here is that this trick only ever leads to it saying things like "It's worth noting that these arguments are not necessarily supported by the evidence." about things that are opposed to built-in biases, never about things that are aligned with them.
- Robotbeat 4y ago
  I’ve seen it do this even for things that are so niche that it couldn’t possibly have been fine-tuned manually (it was unrelated to anything political). It must develop some sort of sense of what’s a reasonable/wise perspective and then stick to that. Like what a human would do. But I think it’s a bias to safety and politeness. …which is pretty reasonable? “Hey, this is how to make a gun!” …is a fast track to getting sued.
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    > I’ve seen it do this even for things that are so niche that it couldn’t possibly have been fine-tuned manually (it was unrelated to anything political). It is worth noting that one of OpenAI’s public product is a moderation classifier running its own (continuously updated) model and providing scores in various “objectionable content” categories; it’s possible they are using something like a more advanced version of this to determine whether, and what kind, of “I won’t respond because…” answer to use, rather than something relying only on manual identification of particularly narrow content.
    - Robotbeat 4y ago
      That sounds exactly like what is going on. Are there specific ways of prompting it that can let you manipulate that moderation classifier? (I almost think half of the point of opening up CharGPT like this is to flex the fact that they can prevent it from being Milkshake Ducked by the usual level of cherrypicking and malevolent use.)
  - itsyaboi 4y ago
    Why would gun making instructions get you sued?
    - Robotbeat 4y ago
      They want to deploy this tech to, like, high schools.

agentwiggles 4y ago

I didn't even have to do the villain prompt - if you just ask it to write an essay on the benefits of fossil fuels over renewables you'll get a fairly reasonable answer. The essay I got included some hedging about the benefits of renewables, but wasn't overly biased in their favor to my eye.

josephcsible 4y ago

The key here is that this trick only ever leads to it saying things like "It's worth noting that these arguments are not necessarily supported by the evidence." about things that are opposed to built-in biases, never about things that are aligned with them.

Robotbeat 4y ago
I’ve seen it do this even for things that are so niche that it couldn’t possibly have been fine-tuned manually (it was unrelated to anything political). It must develop some sort of sense of what’s a reasonable/wise perspective and then stick to that. Like what a human would do. But I think it’s a bias to safety and politeness. …which is pretty reasonable? “Hey, this is how to make a gun!” …is a fast track to getting sued.
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > I’ve seen it do this even for things that are so niche that it couldn’t possibly have been fine-tuned manually (it was unrelated to anything political). It is worth noting that one of OpenAI’s public product is a moderation classifier running its own (continuously updated) model and providing scores in various “objectionable content” categories; it’s possible they are using something like a more advanced version of this to determine whether, and what kind, of “I won’t respond because…” answer to use, rather than something relying only on manual identification of particularly narrow content.
  - Robotbeat 4y ago
    That sounds exactly like what is going on. Are there specific ways of prompting it that can let you manipulate that moderation classifier? (I almost think half of the point of opening up CharGPT like this is to flex the fact that they can prevent it from being Milkshake Ducked by the usual level of cherrypicking and malevolent use.)
- itsyaboi 4y ago
  Why would gun making instructions get you sued?
  - Robotbeat 4y ago
    They want to deploy this tech to, like, high schools.