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> We dont yet life in the police state where everyone's political opinions need to be hidden in dark networks. Millions of people are in places where acknowled

> We dont yet life in the police state where everyone's political opinions need to be hidden in dark networks. Millions of people are in places where acknowledging that they want abortions[1] or miscarried[2] can pique the state's interest, along with people who are trans[3] or have trans kids[4]. We have police using web searches to prosecute women for abortion[1], we have states compiling lists of transgender individuals[3] and we have parents being investigated by the state because their kids were open about being trans[4]. [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/07/03/abortion-data-privacy-prosecution/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/07/03/abortio... [2] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59214544 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59214544 [3] https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/12/14/texas-transgender-data-paxton/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/12/14/texas-trans... [4] https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/09/23/texas-transgender-child-abuse-investigations/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/09/23/texas-tra...

Lanz 4y ago
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- ww-picard-do 4y ago
  "Let the hate flow through you"
- JaimeThompson 4y ago
  How are you using "woke" here?
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sandworm101 4y ago
That is what Tor is for. If all you need is protection from authorities, Tor is enough. Freenet is content-focused, designed so that not even the original uploader can ever remove popular content. Tor protects people and speech from the police. Freenet protects files from everybody.
- ArneBab 4y ago
  That’s not quite true. Freenet protects communication — content in flow. Somewhat larger files that are not accessed automatically disappear from Freenet after a short while. Tor protects your connection to another computer. The stated usecases are excellent examples for usage of Freenet: information for transgender people or about abortions. Even accessing such information can get you in danger nowadays. And a site accessed via Tor can more easily be compromised (to get your identity by tracking information from your OS or similar) or taken down (so the information is gone).
- heavyset_go 4y ago
  Plenty of pertinent information exists as documents, like lists of abortion providers or how/where to get hormone replacement therapy, etc. Freenet can be used for such content and would save a person from having related search queries and sites in their normal web history/traffic that can later be used against them.
- Tor3 4y ago
  Well.. Tor can create trouble for you as well, or at least it did for me. I used to sometimes go through Tor to visit competitors' websites when I used my work computer, just because I didn't want to leave a trail of my company's domain in the competitor's logs. That was quite innocent I thought. Then my sysadmin informed me that the national security monitor (or whatever it was called), which my company was connected to, got an alarm on that. Turns out they had a trigger on Tor connections because they considered it as something used for malicious purposes. It's even triggered if a passive Tor application is running on a mobile device connected to the wifi guest network, b/c it may sometimes probe a node even if not in use. So, uninstall it is. If it's that easy to monitor that someone is using Tor I don't see how it can actually be used by anyone anywhere, where it matters (for something more important than what I used it for).
  - bauruine 4y ago
    Yes Tor usage by default is trivial to detect because the list of Tor nodes your client connects to is public. The EFF has a nice interactive graphic that shows what different actors see if you use Tor [0] You can make that harder to detect by using a bridge. https://bridges.torproject.org/ https://bridges.torproject.org/ [0] https://www.eff.org/de/pages/tor-and-https https://www.eff.org/de/pages/tor-and-https
mildmotive 4y ago
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Lanz 4y ago

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ww-picard-do 4y ago
"Let the hate flow through you"
JaimeThompson 4y ago
How are you using "woke" here?
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sandworm101 4y ago

That is what Tor is for. If all you need is protection from authorities, Tor is enough. Freenet is content-focused, designed so that not even the original uploader can ever remove popular content. Tor protects people and speech from the police. Freenet protects files from everybody.

ArneBab 4y ago
That’s not quite true. Freenet protects communication — content in flow. Somewhat larger files that are not accessed automatically disappear from Freenet after a short while. Tor protects your connection to another computer. The stated usecases are excellent examples for usage of Freenet: information for transgender people or about abortions. Even accessing such information can get you in danger nowadays. And a site accessed via Tor can more easily be compromised (to get your identity by tracking information from your OS or similar) or taken down (so the information is gone).
heavyset_go 4y ago
Plenty of pertinent information exists as documents, like lists of abortion providers or how/where to get hormone replacement therapy, etc. Freenet can be used for such content and would save a person from having related search queries and sites in their normal web history/traffic that can later be used against them.
Tor3 4y ago
Well.. Tor can create trouble for you as well, or at least it did for me. I used to sometimes go through Tor to visit competitors' websites when I used my work computer, just because I didn't want to leave a trail of my company's domain in the competitor's logs. That was quite innocent I thought. Then my sysadmin informed me that the national security monitor (or whatever it was called), which my company was connected to, got an alarm on that. Turns out they had a trigger on Tor connections because they considered it as something used for malicious purposes. It's even triggered if a passive Tor application is running on a mobile device connected to the wifi guest network, b/c it may sometimes probe a node even if not in use. So, uninstall it is. If it's that easy to monitor that someone is using Tor I don't see how it can actually be used by anyone anywhere, where it matters (for something more important than what I used it for).
- bauruine 4y ago
  Yes Tor usage by default is trivial to detect because the list of Tor nodes your client connects to is public. The EFF has a nice interactive graphic that shows what different actors see if you use Tor [0] You can make that harder to detect by using a bridge. https://bridges.torproject.org/ https://bridges.torproject.org/ [0] https://www.eff.org/de/pages/tor-and-https https://www.eff.org/de/pages/tor-and-https

mildmotive 4y ago

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