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It's a bit weird though, I can't imagine disowning a child but why not? People put kids up for adoption. It's really weird to insist on using your biological f

It's a bit weird though, I can't imagine disowning a child but why not? People put kids up for adoption. It's really weird to insist on using your biological father's surname if they disown you.

bee_rider 4y ago
Adoption and disowning have very different connotations. Generally adoption is seen as a best attempt to find someone who can take care of the kid. Generally disowning is seen as just washing your hands of the situation I think.
- psychphysic 4y ago
  It's a very unfortunate situation. But what grosses me out is if Pelé were not who he is. She wouldn't have been so insistent on using his name. I doubt it was a yearning to connect with her ancestor that lead to it and not money and fame. She had a mum, use her surname she raised you!
  - bee_rider 4y ago
    I dunno, never met her, not able to analyze her motives. That seems like a lot to project on a person who died in 2006 though. Perhaps she felt like she deserved to be treated like the rest of his children or something.
    - psychphysic 4y ago
      > Perhaps she felt like she deserved to be treated like the rest of his children or something. You think ahe tried to sue him into loving her? That's so gross.
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      - nextaccountic 4y ago
        It's not sue him into loving her. It's sue him to address a gross violation of her rights.
nextaccountic 4y ago
Unfortunately his daughter wasn't put up for adoption (which would be an entirely fine thing to do!). When you are put to adoption, you have a new family, and it is complete in itself. She was deprived not only of the contact of his father but also her siblings and extended family from the father side, and for no reason at all. She always knew who her father was and knew that he wanted nothing to do with her.
- psychphysic 4y ago
  TIL people without families aren't allowed to adopt kids alone as that'd violate the human right to extended family!

It's a bit weird though, I can't imagine disowning a child but why not? People put kids up for adoption. It's really weird to insist on using your biological father's surname if they disown you.

bee_rider 4y ago

Adoption and disowning have very different connotations. Generally adoption is seen as a best attempt to find someone who can take care of the kid. Generally disowning is seen as just washing your hands of the situation I think.

psychphysic 4y ago
It's a very unfortunate situation. But what grosses me out is if Pelé were not who he is. She wouldn't have been so insistent on using his name. I doubt it was a yearning to connect with her ancestor that lead to it and not money and fame. She had a mum, use her surname she raised you!
- bee_rider 4y ago
  I dunno, never met her, not able to analyze her motives. That seems like a lot to project on a person who died in 2006 though. Perhaps she felt like she deserved to be treated like the rest of his children or something.
  - psychphysic 4y ago
    > Perhaps she felt like she deserved to be treated like the rest of his children or something. You think ahe tried to sue him into loving her? That's so gross.
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    - nextaccountic 4y ago
      It's not sue him into loving her. It's sue him to address a gross violation of her rights.

nextaccountic 4y ago

Unfortunately his daughter wasn't put up for adoption (which would be an entirely fine thing to do!). When you are put to adoption, you have a new family, and it is complete in itself. She was deprived not only of the contact of his father but also her siblings and extended family from the father side, and for no reason at all. She always knew who her father was and knew that he wanted nothing to do with her.

psychphysic 4y ago
TIL people without families aren't allowed to adopt kids alone as that'd violate the human right to extended family!