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Anonymous just declared that they are not responsible for this: https://twitter.com/anonyops/status/153969476277248000 https://twitter.com/anonyops/status/1539

by Ohadr 15y ago

Anonymous just declared that they are not responsible for this: https://twitter.com/anonyops/status/153969476277248000 https://twitter.com/anonyops/status/153969476277248000 "We have no love for Israeli gov't but targeting 1000s for being Israeli? Sorry, you are not #Anonymous pastebay.com/148920"

runn1ng 15y ago
Heh. I like how Anonymous keep on repeating how are they "decentralized" and the only thing really needed to join is to call yourself Anonymous - and at the same time keep on telling trough semi-official twitter accounts, how this Wahhabi attack or that Stratfor attack was not official Anonymous and blah blah blah. Hypocrisy on hypocrisy.
- pdeuchler 15y ago
  I would argue that the purpose of allowing anyone to call themselves "Anonymous" places the group's identity on their actions, not who they say they are. It's kind of the whole point of calling themselves "Anonymous" and leads right into the "we are legion" bit. There is no individual, only the movement. However, by performing actions that are contrary to the Anonymous ideology the Saudi attackers distanced themselves farther from Anonymous than any name could
  - jonhendry 15y ago
    But what is "Anonymous' ideology" if anyone is part of Anonymous? Maybe Anonymous should have chosen a different name. Other groups could then remain anonymous, without being assumed to be Anonymous.
    - runn1ng 15y ago
      Well, actually, Anonymous didn't really chose the name - it was a joke made on default "Anonymous" username on 4chan. And it really grew somehow organically into this point. That's what I don't like about people saying "You are not true Anonymous". First hackers under the name "Anonymous" posted other people MySpace passwords on 4chan and put blinking lights on epilepsy website. And the whole scientology movement was first meant as a joke, as a reaction to the leaked Tom Cruise video. Really, people calling other people "not true Anonymous" are hypocritical. I think.
  - sneak 15y ago
    Anonymous is an adjective, not a noun. It's not a group.
guscost 15y ago
Can we just start calling these folks "Anonymous USA" to avoid naming something important with a term that anyone else on the planet can alter at will? Is there really any logic in choosing a brand that is interchangeable with the phrase "anyone on earth"? Wouldn't that seem to suggest that staying completely anonymous while being taken seriously on the Internet is impossible?
jonhendry 15y ago
Splitters!

by Ohadr 15y ago

runn1ng 15y ago

Heh. I like how Anonymous keep on repeating how are they "decentralized" and the only thing really needed to join is to call yourself Anonymous - and at the same time keep on telling trough semi-official twitter accounts, how this Wahhabi attack or that Stratfor attack was not official Anonymous and blah blah blah. Hypocrisy on hypocrisy.

pdeuchler 15y ago
I would argue that the purpose of allowing anyone to call themselves "Anonymous" places the group's identity on their actions, not who they say they are. It's kind of the whole point of calling themselves "Anonymous" and leads right into the "we are legion" bit. There is no individual, only the movement. However, by performing actions that are contrary to the Anonymous ideology the Saudi attackers distanced themselves farther from Anonymous than any name could
- jonhendry 15y ago
  But what is "Anonymous' ideology" if anyone is part of Anonymous? Maybe Anonymous should have chosen a different name. Other groups could then remain anonymous, without being assumed to be Anonymous.
  - runn1ng 15y ago
    Well, actually, Anonymous didn't really chose the name - it was a joke made on default "Anonymous" username on 4chan. And it really grew somehow organically into this point. That's what I don't like about people saying "You are not true Anonymous". First hackers under the name "Anonymous" posted other people MySpace passwords on 4chan and put blinking lights on epilepsy website. And the whole scientology movement was first meant as a joke, as a reaction to the leaked Tom Cruise video. Really, people calling other people "not true Anonymous" are hypocritical. I think.
- sneak 15y ago
  Anonymous is an adjective, not a noun. It's not a group.

guscost 15y ago

Can we just start calling these folks "Anonymous USA" to avoid naming something important with a term that anyone else on the planet can alter at will? Is there really any logic in choosing a brand that is interchangeable with the phrase "anyone on earth"? Wouldn't that seem to suggest that staying completely anonymous while being taken seriously on the Internet is impossible?

jonhendry 15y ago

Splitters!