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Do they make any 5nm chips other than apple silicon ones? What about the 3nm ones, will they all be apple? I would like to put one of those new chips in a norma
by everyone 4y ago
Do they make any 5nm chips other than apple silicon ones? What about the 3nm ones, will they all be apple? I would like to put one of those new chips in a normal pc.
- mdasen 4y agoYes, they make a lot of 5nm and 4nm parts for Qualcomm and others. For example, the Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 is based on TSMC's 4nm (the regular 8 Gen 1 is based on Samsung's 4nm). AMD's Ryzen 7000 series (Zen 4) uses TSMC's 5nm. Apple tends to have the best margins and is willing to pay upfront for TSMC's capacity so they generally get it ahead of other customers. However, there are reports that Intel will be using TSMC's 3nm: https://www.windowscentral.com/intel-apple-tsmc-3nm-report https://www.windowscentral.com/intel-apple-tsmc-3nm-report. Intel has confirmed that it will be using TSMC's 3nm tech in its 2023 products, but hasn't said which products. Maybe we'll see Intel laptop chips at 3nm, maybe it'll be high-margin datacenter chips, maybe it'll be something for enthusiasts on the desktop, maybe it'll just be the GPU for chips made with Intel 4 (5nm): https://www.extremetech.com/computing/338679-intel-may-drop-tsmcs-3nm-tgpu-from-meteor-lake https://www.extremetech.com/computing/338679-intel-may-drop-....
- beautifulfreak 4y agoIntel canceled its order with TSMC. https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/business/intel-cancels-n3-orders-tsmc-pares-back-n3-expansion-2022-08/ https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/business/intel-cancel...
- mdasen 4y agoAwesome! Great to know Of course, the article goes on to say that TSMC is reducing N3 capacity with Apple being the only customer in 2023. I think it's just hard to get customers who want to pay what Apple is willing to pay.