> You'll never get them to say with certainty what they believe. True enough, but a useful perspective I've heard when it comes to arguing with people online:

> You'll never get them to say with certainty what they believe. True enough, but a useful perspective I've heard when it comes to arguing with people online: You're not arguing for the benefit of the person you're arguing, you're arguing for the benefit of the people paying attention to the argument. It's easy enough (especially with the ability to crawl public social media profiles) what people's beliefs are, by the "negative space" they create. This is how you make the case for what their real motivations are. They will of course deny it, but anyone paying attention can see for themselves.